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Old 10.12.2009, 05:15 PM   #205
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Originally Posted by infinitemusic
Most bands, I'm sure, have never even thought about fascism, let alone where they stand on the idea.

There's no way you and I are going to agree on this point. I'm surprised you think that, but I can't change your mind. I will say that everyone I know who makes music, without exception, is on the left and, if pushed (and only a little nudge) would immediately decry fascism. But like I say, if you think the above, I'm not going to change it.

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What point are you even trying to make?

It was a small one. Miley Cyrus speaks to a lot of people. To repeat, I'm not - that's NOT - making a comment on the quality or otherwise of her music.

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Just because you like Miley's music and millions of retarded middle class white preteens agree with you, you think that her music is somehow more valid?

Absolutely not. But I wasn't talking aesthetic quality (you see how I've re-iterated that twice now?)

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...frankly, the fact that you don't like Fugazi makes me think they might be good since you listen to the absolute shittiest music on the planet and think you're special because of it.

I don't. Nice flaming though.

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How does this not apply to all the bullshit music you listen to? And for the record, I like pop music a lot. Just ... good pop music.

It almost certain does apply to the bullshit music I listen to. Nice flaming, by the way.

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Give some examples. Historically it seems that the only way the underclass can change anything is through violent conflict because of the inherent inequalities due to their lack of money. It really doesn't seem to be any different now. Why do you think I'm wrong?

Again. There's no point my disagreeing because you've clearly made up your mind. And patronised large slews of people by characterising them as violent insurrectionists. I'm reading a book on the Lollards at the moment.

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I don't know anything about Britain and wasn't talking about it because I don't live there or really care about their culture in regards to this discussion. But for what it's worth, Britain's version of punk always struck me as even more hilariously posturing than America's.

Yeah, I agree with your aesthetic points about British punk. I don't really go for punk myself either. But I know that a lot of British punk bands came from pub rock bands, and there's masses of non-middle class punks. Steve Ignorant, Joe Strummer, Sid Vicious... whatever.
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