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Originally Posted by ni'k
nazism always had that romantic suicidal wagnerian drive so i don't think it would have lasted had america stayed out of the war. fuck how much better was the american victory over a potential nazi victory anyway? hitler had his gas chambers and concentration camps but is the violence america has reaped since ww2 somehow comparitively lesser? to me, and this may be niaeve, nazism is almost a preferable evil to capitalism because it seems so much more volatile and from defeatable in an obvious fuck the facists let's kill the fuhrer kind of way. and then you have the space opened up for a potential leftist revolution. plus they have cooler uniforms, when you see the swastika and the skulls its like- there's the bad guy let's shoot him. Point and click basically.
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In a way I strangely agree. I wonder if we'd stayed out of the war if things would have simply imploded. That is, did our involvement just bolster Nazi resolve and prolong things? Would the German people have realized sooner the error of the Nazi way and ended things themselves? It's possible. And yes, things like Vietnam, racism in America, killing students... we can hardly say we have been much better.
But yes, basically, Nazism in Germany was so extreme that it could not have sustained itself. Imagine, though, how it must have looked to the rest of the world at the time, when communication was so slow and so primitive by present standards.