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Originally Posted by demonrail666

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As for it lacking goals altogether, I have to disagree. Learning something like the guitar tends to entail a series of ongoing goals that can be met but only for them to be replaced by another, even more challenging series of goals.

Yes, the enjoymant of the process 'in the moment' is crucial but I needed a sense of progress, however slow and minimal, to really encourage me to continue.

yes, i thought of this as i typed my answer but i kept from refuting myself to emphasize the point that in the case of the guitar, for you, while goals are useful, it's the process itself that is the reward.

i supposed i was trying to distinguish from being motivated by pure goals and being motivated by pleasure, which creates its own goals as it moves along.

it's a subtle distinction but a good one, considering how many of us have pursued stupid worthless "goals" that have no reward except for the getting it over with.

anyway, enjoy your guitarra-- magical realist that you are, i'm sure that butterflies come out of the strings as you play, and they go out to crash against windshields of those double-decker buses you people have.

me, i'm a glutton, i like cooking, both the process (creative chaos) and the goal (eating!).

but anyway i should stop mumbling and go do what i need to do today.