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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
The US Constitution is a document written to forge a brand new government by some of the most learned men of their generation, based upon their colected centuries of reading and analysis and study of old governmental systems, thinkers, and political writers.
It was never meant to be a declaration of who is good and who is not, who is put in and who is left out. at the time, and this is a horrid thought but it is true, white folks considered anyone not white to be beneath them, not in class or status, but in SPECIES. it was the accepted religiouscentric view.
obviously to us that is a backwards and ridiculous stance to take, but it was what it was. the US constitution allowed for changes to itself which would express the ongoing changes in society. that is genius.
think about how impossible it was for a people to change the laws of their country before that. the magna carta took countless lives to accomplish and it was just a small step.
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I just get so turned off by its authors, that I would prefer we threw it out and started fresh.. at the least, I abhor the concept of "lets look at what the founding fathers/authors intended" because we already know they had no intentions of do what was said, that their document while sounding nice, was strictly rhetorical.
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Originally Posted by dale_gribble
clearly he's arguing that the constitution is good and i would agree with him. just because it's about the rights of free men and it was written by slaveholders doesn't make it any less relevant. i like most of your posts and that wouldn't change if i found out you were a hypocrite. the arrangement of words is important despite who wrote them.
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very good point.. my bias is that I am so offended by the hypocrisy that I am blinded to the substance of the words themselves, but you have indeed made the best point on this thread
