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Old 02.07.2010, 10:52 PM   #207
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
ahhh The Troubles.. good times for revolutionaries.

I wish my folks here in Los Angeles would see the new rising son looming in the horizon and join up the movement against the feudal landlords who run things


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Originally Posted by the ikara cult
im waiting for opponents of the iraq war to explain what they think would have happened if the war hadnt happend. But yknow, you can always rely on comfortable people to throw around conspiracy theories before they speak to the reality of provincialism

This poses a massive question regarding what should and what can be done about such regimes. I'm convinced the Iraq war was a mistake because it's shifted things from Iraq being a once quantifiable, largely local (and in my view quite controlable) threat to an unquantifiable, potentially international (and in my view quite uncontrolable) one. Saddam was largely isolated within the middle east and so was limited in what he could actually achieve, at least compared with what a more fully integrated fundamentalist Iraq could achieve as part of a far greater network. War is never about altruism, it's about weighing up threats, and as such can never be deemed successful, or even just, if that threat only increases as a consequence of it.

The further problem of course is that because Iraq has been such a disaster, it'll make it far harder for the west to engage in more just and necessary interventions in the future.
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