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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
listen.. we are dealing with ideals in the first place. Equality? Freeing oppressed peoples? Liberation? These are and have always been ideals, BUT without having lofty even unrealistic ideals to strive for, there is no progress. The Constitution was written on lies, hypocrisy, slavery and genocide, but its rhetoric alone was an ideal worth striving for, which after 200 odd years is closest to reality it could ever be. Yet it also remains an ideal, but none of you would say that we should not aim for Equality because it is unrealistically idealistic.
War is never an option.. sure, that is not a practical or realistic ideal, but none-the-less it should be the standard. That way we NEVER get complacent or accepting of war as some kind of norm..
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You have a very absolute attitude about it, namely that war is never an option. It provides an absolute answer. My problem is that I do believe in such a thing as a just and necessary war (even if only hypothetically) but that the criteria determining such a war is never absolute. In the end you're right, we
are only really dealing with ideals. The dilemma comes with trying to determine which ideals are worth waging war for.
Also, you showed some admiration earlier in the thread for the IRA. Would you not say they were waging a war?
They certainly would.