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Old 02.17.2010, 12:56 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by knox

and as for stabbing in the UK, i'm sure the number is more significant than that, but still.

that number is for 16-24, and murder, there are approx 20,000 stabbings over all, but they do not result in homicide. In Los Angeles, the average is well over 100 16-24 youths murdered by gun violence a year, and I can't even FIND the statistics on how many shootings again, here in LA we would LOVE to go back to knife fight days, then I might have a few friends still alive

"
The most popular murder weapon remains the knife or other sharp instrument, such as a broken bottle, with 255 of the 651 deaths analysed the result of a fatal stabbing. This compares with 271 knife murders the year before.
However, the police figures show that the overall level of knife crime has fallen by 12%, with particularly substantial declines in robberies and attacks involving grievous bodily harm, suggesting that it is not improved treatment for victims that is behind the fall in the murder rate.
There is a similar picture in gun crime where the number of murder victims has fallen from 53 to 39 – the lowest number since 1989." (from the Guardian.co.uk)


SHIT IN LOS ANGELES THERE ARE between 150-250 POLICE RELATED GUN HOMICIDES ALONE! Just the city!


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Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
I can see everyone's point here. But I am still going to keep my guns. Sorry, I'm not going to try and kill a rattle snake with a knife. I will protect my children so they can go outside. With out my dad's shotgun I would have had pretty much nothing to eat as a child, since our main source of food was deer meat and garden vegetables. I know you can live on only veggies but we did not have a soy bean processing plant to make fake meat with.

I really do not see why people cling on to the constitution for what they believe in and choose to ignore what others believe in from the constitution. For example:I personally do not agree with abortion, but it is a constitutional right and that is fine with me if people choose that path because it is thier right to do so in this country.

On another note we do need more gun control. We need more honest vendors that do follow the waiting periods and background checks. I am sure that gun violence would go down if we eliminated them, but it would still exist.

a) keep yr shotgun, I'm primarily talking about regulating hand guns and assault rifles. DC is following LA's example, I am sure their hand gun deaths and shootings will massively decline, even though the NRA folks are convinced that if you take away citizen's access to fire-arms you only arm the criminals. It just ain't true

b) abortion is not a constitutional right, and neither is gun ownership, rather these are current, temporary interpretations of the Constitution, and in the future as in the past, could be reinterpreted removing anachronisms to make the laws fit into our contemporary reality

c) I never said get rid of ALL guns (though in truth, that would be nice) but I definitely agree with the STRICT control of guns, as done here in California

d) knox, in cali there are so many strict background checks and waiting periods, the VAST majority of street guns are stolen from dealers/warehouses/shipping yards. I used to know a couple of folks who were into that kind of shit a few years back, they used to gank straps by the pallet! Much much easier then getting someone to go in and buy you a gun taking the risk to report it stolen after the fact.
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