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Old 03.18.2010, 08:40 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Pookie
The weak anthropic principle is interesting but ultimately a load of old wank.

it's a tautology that defeats marijuana-fueled speculations.

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Originally Posted by Glice
Quite. It doesn't so much 'cut through it' as it apes existing metaphysics with different terms. Valid, legitimate, but ultimately, a load of old wank.

if you equate metaphysics with old wank you are correct.

the strong anthropic principle is wank and metaphysics ("god made this world for us")-- the weak one however postulates that our consciousness must have emerged in a universe consistent with it, hence it's no surprise we can observe it-- no miracle required-- it requires evolution not intelligent (puke) design. what this implies however is the existence of a world that is fundamentally consistent, hence "objective" (this word is shit but i'm interpreting the OP's intentions)

actually you don't even need the weak anthropic nothing, no cosmology-- scientific observation and the fact that experiments can be reproduced is enough indication that there's a consistent thing that we're a part of and while we can't know it completely it's there and that's why we all have to take a shit on a regular basis.
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