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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

that's fine if reality consists of nothing but lab work

of course not, but the thread poster asked if such reality exists-- the answer is obviously yes. we share a motherfucking universe with consistent "laws", physical constants, predictable chemical reactions that give rise to biological systems, eventually neurons, eventually consciousnes, and such consciousness is basically consistent with the world where it was grown-- of course there are crazies and mutations that don't survive-- because they are inconsistent with such "objective" world.

now, within that consciousness is where we think we *really* live, and those realities are far from "objective", and as varied as snowflakes-- all of them different-- still, all snowflakes are snowflakes-- there is some intersubjectivity that is possible thanks to that common ground, our common genetic makeup, and phenotype, and millions of years of animal behavior, that makes cultures fundamentally the same at the root of it (if you're a marxist you'll say for example that it all boils down to economics), and the rest is the icing on the fucking cake where one people put the butter on top of the bread and other people put the butter in the bottom and they go to war because of it as dr seuss would put it.

but yes, between certain people there are vast distances that can never, will never be crossed, due to their subjectivities being so fucking dischordant that very little understanding is possible. you know how sometimes it's impossible to communicate with someone.

of course, both of those people will have to take a shit at some point. a fact of life & the "objective" world. and you know, in spite of the belief that most people wanna have that they are so special and unique and individual and one of a kind, that's more of a narcissistic pipe dream fostered by capitalism than an actual "objective" fact-- we're more similar and more common than we want to admit.

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