Where's the beef? (U2)

ted_kennedy · 04.24.2006, 04:48 AM

I keep seeing posts saying that U2 ripped off dirty boots, so could somebody point me in the direction of the exact U2 song in question (and say which part off dirty boots it rips off)?

sy2004 · 04.24.2006, 05:03 AM

Here's a quote:

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Finally, it appears that even a mythically grand band like U2 need a helping hand every now and then. The band, reeling from the success of their latest How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb (Interscope) clearly rip-off a well-known Sonic Youth guitar riff for their latest single, "Vertigo." The song begins with a riff easily comparable to SY's "Dirty Boots" off 1990's incredible Goo (DGC). The riff rip-off doesn't seem to have started any fires under the collective Sonic Youth ass, but it does remain a troubling reminder of the unoriginality and tiredness of mainstream pop ditties.

Sample of proof:

HowToDismantleASonicYouthSong:

http://www.iol.ie/~paulmoloney/HowToDismantleASonicYouthSong.mp3

PAULYBEE2656 · 04.24.2006, 05:54 AM

vertigo rips of the chorus of dirty boots. its subtle but it is there. the guitar riff just before the the crap bono lyrics come in

PAULYBEE2656 · 04.24.2006, 05:55 AM

its not as blatant as the cooper temple clauses molestation of drunken butterfly tho!

greenlight · 04.24.2006, 10:03 AM

crap bono lyric.....hehe, what a funny interpretation Paul

ted_kennedy · 04.24.2006, 01:32 PM

Hmm... I'm sceptical that they (U2) even know who SY are, nevermind whether they listen enough to want to imitate.

jennthebenn · 04.24.2006, 06:39 PM

bono at least is aware...i have a rolling stone from the late 90's where bono describes his party music as running the gamut from wu-tang clan to sonic youth and some other acts i forget.

hey alex · 04.25.2006, 01:07 AM

man fuck a bono

holy-reverb!! · 04.25.2006, 03:11 PM

bonos custom gretsch is just............bonofied. need I say more?

sleep33 · 04.26.2006, 08:09 PM

wow, you guys have been talking about this "rip off" for like a year and its in no way a rip off. Its not like its a complex atonal riff. Its a simple V IV chord progression in the key of A. Its only two chords (actually their just power chords {I and V of chord tone} in both) and after that they are completely different,
U2s goes V IV in A and then goes to the IV of D ending with the original A powerchord.
SYs goes V IV in A and then goes to the root A and back down to the IV of D, G.

So this is a fact. There is no ripoff! This chord change can be found everywhere in rock music...

Drugstore_Cowboy · 04.26.2006, 08:11 PM

It is not just the chords, it is the vocal melody, as well. And since U2 is so horrible and Bono is a prick, I will use it as another device to hate them, as though I did not have myriads of devices already.

sleep33 · 04.27.2006, 05:41 PM

I agree, I hate U2 but its still not a rip off...

Richard Pryor on Fire · 04.27.2006, 08:10 PM

Wyrd, I'm back in the cut. I'm with sleep33 it does sound similar but it's not a wholy unique and distinct riff. And I also hate U2 and so does every member of my Irish family, dumb yankess dig that shit.

nomadicfollower · 04.27.2006, 08:23 PM

BONO FOR POPE!!!

04.24.2006, 04:48 AM	#1
ted_kennedy bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 101	I keep seeing posts saying that U2 ripped off dirty boots, so could somebody point me in the direction of the exact U2 song in question (and say which part off dirty boots it rips off)?
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04.24.2006, 05:54 AM	#3
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	vertigo rips of the chorus of dirty boots. its subtle but it is there. the guitar riff just before the the crap bono lyrics come in __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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04.24.2006, 05:55 AM	#4
PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	its not as blatant as the cooper temple clauses molestation of drunken butterfly tho! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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04.24.2006, 10:03 AM	#5
greenlight invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,131	crap bono lyric.....hehe, what a funny interpretation Paul
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04.24.2006, 01:32 PM	#6
ted_kennedy bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 101	Hmm... I'm sceptical that they (U2) even know who SY are, nevermind whether they listen enough to want to imitate.
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04.24.2006, 06:39 PM	#7
jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	bono at least is aware...i have a rolling stone from the late 90's where bono describes his party music as running the gamut from wu-tang clan to sonic youth and some other acts i forget.
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04.25.2006, 01:07 AM	#8
hey alex the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 791	man fuck a bono __________________ Duran Duran's 1995 covers album Thank You was recently voted the worst album of all time by a Q magazine poll. Although we respectfully disagree (Sonic Youth's NYC Ghosts & Flowers is clearly the worst album of all time) -Pitchfork (hahahah!) Here's a myspace of my music and 4-track ramblings the electric kites--the jamz of me n my friends
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04.25.2006, 03:11 PM	#9
holy-reverb!! children of satan Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: toronto Posts: 270	bonos custom gretsch is just............bonofied. need I say more? __________________
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04.26.2006, 08:09 PM	#10
sleep33 little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	wow, you guys have been talking about this "rip off" for like a year and its in no way a rip off. Its not like its a complex atonal riff. Its a simple V IV chord progression in the key of A. Its only two chords (actually their just power chords {I and V of chord tone} in both) and after that they are completely different, U2s goes V IV in A and then goes to the IV of D ending with the original A powerchord. SYs goes V IV in A and then goes to the root A and back down to the IV of D, G. So this is a fact. There is no ripoff! This chord change can be found everywhere in rock music...
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04.26.2006, 08:11 PM	#11
Drugstore_Cowboy little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 45	It is not just the chords, it is the vocal melody, as well. And since U2 is so horrible and Bono is a prick, I will use it as another device to hate them, as though I did not have myriads of devices already.
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04.27.2006, 05:41 PM	#12
sleep33 little trouble girl Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 51	I agree, I hate U2 but its still not a rip off...
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04.27.2006, 08:10 PM	#13
Richard Pryor on Fire 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Detroit. Posts: 709	Wyrd, I'm back in the cut. I'm with sleep33 it does sound similar but it's not a wholy unique and distinct riff. And I also hate U2 and so does every member of my Irish family, dumb yankess dig that shit. __________________ http://pissingaway.blogspot.com/
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04.27.2006, 08:23 PM	#14
nomadicfollower invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North America Posts: 2,672	BONO FOR POPE!!!
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