Lauren Baccall(sp?) cracks me up - Page 2

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 02:12 PM

[quote=dirty bunny]Well then you'll have to blame Bram Stoker then. Then there's the succubus, who raped men in the night and stole their energy. A vampire of a different sort.[/quote

succubus is a GHOST

not a vampire.

Incubus is the male version

wellcharge · 08.27.2009, 02:21 PM

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what literature you got?

I have read much folklore vampire tales, reasearch, and modern (last 100 years) vampire lit as well.

nothing vamp specific, lot's of slavic folk books that have vamp boners within,and of course these vampires have only one nostril, an idea which i don't think hit hollywood(probably cause it's kind of boring)

however i'm sure the sexually active vampires of the past weren't emo pussies, anne rice could very well be responsible for that phenomenon

!@#$%! · 08.27.2009, 02:26 PM

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however i'm sure the sexually active vampires of the past weren't emo pussies

haaaa haaa haa haaa

wellcharge · 08.27.2009, 02:29 PM

if i was going to live forever, i would allow myself an occaisonal lazy day where i just say "fuck it, i'm not gonna bother doing my eyeliner today i don't care what anyone thinks"

dirty bunny · 08.27.2009, 04:37 PM

[quote=Rob Instigator]

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Originally Posted by dirty bunny

Well then you'll have to blame Bram Stoker then. Then there's the succubus, who raped men in the night and stole their energy. A vampire of a different sort.[/quote

succubus is a GHOST

not a vampire.

Incubus is the male version

Now maybe I'm completely wrong, but I always thought the main point about vampires was they suck your energy. What happens when you lose a lot of blood? You're weak. They're sucking your blood, taking your energy. What does a succubus/incubus do? They suck your energy.

That sounds an awful lot like a vampire to me.

But I just bet you've got to have the last word. Because you know better than anyone, because you've read folklore blah blah blah.

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 04:41 PM

succubus and incubus do nothing like that
they have SEX WITH YOU while you are paralyzed. (historically)
while they may be referred to as stealing sexual energy, it is not like vampires at all.

they are a folklore created by people having "waking dreams." where they feel paralyzed yet awake, but in fact, they are still dreaming and their bodies are asleep. especially waking "wet" dreams, which, in much more cloistered and religious times, was a SIN.

ejaculation was a sin unless for procreation.

vampires are undead, who must feast on blood to stay "alive." they can kill their meal, and ussually do, but if they feel like it, they let their meal, after being nearly drained, eat of their own vampire "blood" thereby making them a vampire.

succubus and incubus are just "ghosts" fucking with ya.

Toilet & Bowels · 08.27.2009, 04:42 PM

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thats it. anyone else here seen herzog's remake of nosferatu?

yes, it's not herzog's best work but it's still very good

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 04:42 PM

no last words in coversation
feel free to add or reply in any way you want!

dirty bunny · 08.27.2009, 04:49 PM

Of course they're not the same. That's why a distinction is made between them. Supposedly vampires were corporeal than succubi, but that's the way I've always viewed vampires as being energy-stealers. You obviously don't see it that way, which is fine (I guess :P).

Toilet & Bowels · 08.27.2009, 04:49 PM

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everyone's hyped up on vampires since ann rice decided to rewrite the mythos to a,llow vampires to get hard-ons.

vampires are by definition UNDEAD and posses no sexual urges nor any functional genitals. Their shit is shrivelled up and dried out.

i thought traditionally vampires tales were used as a means to scare young girls out of having sex with handsome strangers, etc?
i think sex has always been the subtext with vampires, anne rice changed them from sexual predators to sensitive & misunderstood low-calory goths.

wellcharge · 08.27.2009, 04:52 PM

[quote=dirty bunny]

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Now maybe I'm completely wrong, but I always thought the main point about vampires was they suck your energy. What happens when you lose a lot of blood? You're weak. They're sucking your blood, taking your energy. What does a succubus/incubus do? They suck your energy.

That sounds an awful lot like a vampire to me.

But I just bet you've got to have the last word. Because you know better than anyone, because you've read folklore blah blah blah.

vampires feast on BLOOD , sexual energy is not blood, if you don't eat BLOOD you aren't a vamp.

wellcharge · 08.27.2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i thought traditionally vampires tales were used as a means to scare young girls out of having sex with handsome strangers, etc?
i think sex has always been the subtext with vampires, anne rice changed them from sexual predators to sensitive & misunderstood low-calory goths.

in eastern europe(think transylvania,home of most western vamp. fiction) it's always been related to violent deaths, improper burials,a baby born on saturday dying before baptism and that type of thing, the eternal soul,unable to go to heaven or hell, returns to the body.

Rob Instigator · 08.27.2009, 04:57 PM

EXACTLY

gualbert · 08.27.2009, 04:59 PM

^
^ yeah, the vampire myth comes from some noble guy named Vlad, who enjoyed to torture people, in Transylvania/Romania.

nicfit · 08.27.2009, 05:09 PM

vlad "welcome to my lands" the impaler?

Toilet & Bowels · 08.27.2009, 05:25 PM

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^
^ yeah, the vampire myth comes from some noble guy named Vlad, who enjoyed to torture people, in Transylvania/Romania.

i think every culture has it's own vampire myths, they don't all come from vlad.

schizophrenicroom · 08.27.2009, 07:52 PM

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I like old movies, chaplin, marx bros, keaton, old silent classiscs
I was referring to the general attitude of today;'s movie going public, who never want to "read" subtitles, hate silent movies, and cannot take B+W movies.

they want escapism, not art. sadly.

lauren bacall is fabulous. just her in the big sleep seals my love. she and bogey, oh my god.

nosferatu STILL gives me the creeps when i watch it

Rob Instigator · 08.28.2009, 12:46 PM

vlad the oimpaler is the source of Dracula, a fictional vampire. folkloric vampires have been arfound for far longer then that

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wellcharge expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cold and boring kanada Posts: 1,297	if i was going to live forever, i would allow myself an occaisonal lazy day where i just say "fuck it, i'm not gonna bother doing my eyeliner today i don't care what anyone thinks"
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	succubus and incubus do nothing like that they have SEX WITH YOU while you are paralyzed. (historically) while they may be referred to as stealing sexual energy, it is not like vampires at all. they are a folklore created by people having "waking dreams." where they feel paralyzed yet awake, but in fact, they are still dreaming and their bodies are asleep. especially waking "wet" dreams, which, in much more cloistered and religious times, was a SIN. ejaculation was a sin unless for procreation. vampires are undead, who must feast on blood to stay "alive." they can kill their meal, and ussually do, but if they feel like it, they let their meal, after being nearly drained, eat of their own vampire "blood" thereby making them a vampire. succubus and incubus are just "ghosts" fucking with ya. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	no last words in coversation feel free to add or reply in any way you want! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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dirty bunny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: oh, why Texas actually Posts: 1,680	Of course they're not the same. That's why a distinction is made between them. Supposedly vampires were corporeal than succubi, but that's the way I've always viewed vampires as being energy-stealers. You obviously don't see it that way, which is fine (I guess :P). __________________ kiss me kiss me in the shadow of a doubt
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gualbert the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,088	^ ^ yeah, the vampire myth comes from some noble guy named Vlad, who enjoyed to torture people, in Transylvania/Romania.
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08.28.2009, 12:46 PM	#38
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	vlad the oimpaler is the source of Dracula, a fictional vampire. folkloric vampires have been arfound for far longer then that __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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