[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Many master players are tasteless. Prince is a tasteless player who knows his way around a fretboard very well. Yes, he can shred, but his guitar tone is awful and the music he makes is highly irritating to me.

Taste. It is a matter of taste. I have heard the vast majority of his output and I have liked MAYBE two songs.

prince knows his way around more than just a fret board, he is very musically inclined and involved in the production of all the music he writes/performs..

It is indeed a matter of taste, and I respect that prince is not your cup of tea, so long as we all agree to at the least respect prince as an artist with some talent and artistic integrity.

Again, I bring up that atrocious recent single "Screwdriver." Tell me that piece of crap measures up to the work that made his name.

No, but artists are allowed to change their approach to their art, and I don't think that prince is taking his current approach any less serious than his previous projects.

Why am I even arguing so much on prince's behalf? Fuck it. Either the dude's work speaks for itself or it doesn't, ain't much else to add..

[Bytor Peltor]

Just how big is this sycophantic fan base?

I listen to my fair share of POP radio when my eleven year old is in the car and Prince surly isn't getting played on radio. YES, the doves cry and the purple rain falls on the Saturday morning 80's flashback show, but I don't hear Prince being played with the likes of: Katy Perry, One Direction, Pharrell Williams, John Legend, Pink and so on.

Of course, maybe I'm a blind (or should that be deaf) fan for continuing to purchase David Bowie albums in the 80's, 90's and beyond because I'm sure someone was making close to the same comparisons about his post 70's output.

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I would also argue that he is very much phoning it in these days and riding his own coattails while fleecing a sycophantic fan base who will say that everything he shits out is a work of genius. He has not made a truly decent record in 20 years (this is me being generous), and is getting by on inertia at this point.

[Savage Clone]

Public radio here has an enormously popular music station that plays s shit ton of Prince, new and old. They are very Minnesota-booster and play a lot of stuff that people my age and older think is "cool" because they don't seem to get that the town's 80s heyday was a long time ago and that there are better current local bands than Dessa and rhymesayers crap.
Trust me, his presence here looms large.

[Rob Instigator]

What about Bob Mould's presence?

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Public radio here has an enormously popular music station that plays s shit ton of Prince, new and old. Trust me, his presence here looms large.

Wow - riding the coattails on Public Radio......never would have guessed.

So - Prince is to Minnesota as ZZ Top is to Houston / Texas......just not sure if KPFT's (Houston Public radio) blues show plays any new ZZ Top - all the stations play the hell out of the old.

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I juat never liked Prince. Overexposure to his ridiculous personae and awful guitar tone is inevitable when one lives Minneapolis.

I have a technical question: speaking as a guitar player, is tone considered more important than style or ability? If Prince or (lord forbid) Stevie Ray Vaughn produced different tones, would you possibly have decent things to say about them? Also, do you know if this issue of tone is the same for saxophone and piano players?

[Savage Clone]

Even if his tone were better, I would still find his style tasteless and obnoxious.

Oh, and rob: Bob mould still looms large too. Doesn't live here anymore, but just played a huge sold-out show for the 25th anniversary of his first solo album. I find his over emotive vocals to have aged quite poorly, personally. The last decade has been way better for local music than the supposed halcyon days of the 80s if you ask me. The 90s were a shit hole though.

[Savage Clone]

Oh, and tone is definitely not limited to guitarists as a matter of taste.
Prince is a very "good" musician, guitar and otherwise. I just hate the sounds he uses and tbr music he writes. Same for srv and satriani and vai and any number of other tasteless "virtuosos."

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Oh, and tone is definitely not limited to guitarists as a matter of taste.
Prince is a very "good" musician, guitar and otherwise. I just hate the sounds he uses and tbr music he writes. Same for srv and satriani and vai and any number of other tasteless "virtuosos."

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Savage Clone again.