do any of you arty people lino cut?

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 07:10 PM

one of my major projects is appaerntly a large/"ambitious" silk lino cut.

lino cut is my most hated form of print making. which is why this is really difficult to get into. Generally I dislike the medium, the way it works, the look of the outcome, how painful it is to work (even though I've spent tens of hours hand burnishing copper before... this is different type of pain) and the fact that once I've used the lino I cant ever use it again.

something tells me that none of you will have a flipping clue but if there is anyone who works with lino or has a favourite artist who works with lino, it'd be nice to get some more examples of styles I can try that look less.. classic.

The only thing I've come across which is kind of interesting is this lady who does massive reduction lino prints with many colours... so it kind of looks like the watercolour effect in photoshop. But that is far too time consuming and whenever I've done reduction I start with a series of 20 and only end up with five. My lecturer suggestd I do a bleed print to help prevent this but another thing I like about print making is the large borders and lonliness type feeling a print can have when it is set well inside the paper margin.

ALIEN ANAL · 03.20.2008, 07:14 PM

iv done some lino during school, and i do have some blocks that i can work on
but i havnt done any personal lino prints

i dont think i find it as bad as you, there is some really groovy lino prints out there but unfortunately i dont know any artists to tell you

This Is Not Here · 03.20.2008, 07:22 PM

Lino cuts are appauling, I've been working in an art materials shop for 3 years, we stock all the lino-cut equipment and I don't think I've ever sold any of it on my shifts. So yeah, its unpopular because its rubbish, I realise this isn't what you want to be hearing right now, but there are so many other ways to achieve the same effect.

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 07:24 PM

Dont get me wrong, I do believe there is merrit in achieving a sense of movement, texture, etc when using lino. But.. I am yet to really see any artist use it in a way that goes beyond limits that appear time and time again when you see any lino print. In reality to me they all look the same.

Death & the Maiden · 03.20.2008, 08:59 PM

I love lino cut. Last year for my major work in art class, I did three lino prints with a Jam theme: one of Paul Weller, one of a traffic jam, and one of a row of jam jars (my teacher thought it was like Andy Warhol's works about mass production). I got good marks for it, 37/40. I should post it in the art thread. I know it can be really tedious and time consuming, but I really enjoy it.

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 10:17 PM

Id love you to post pics of it!

m1rr0r dash · 03.20.2008, 10:22 PM

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 10:24 PM

its nice. but it still looks like a lino cut. sigh.

StevOK · 03.20.2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash

I didn't realize that girlgun and floating slowly worked at the same bar.

m1rr0r dash · 03.20.2008, 10:32 PM

actually woodcut

woodcut looks just like lino:

also woodcut:

^^^ you gonna argue with that?

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 10:47 PM

Its just so.. illustrative. and non representational of my style of drawing and painting.

m1rr0r dash · 03.20.2008, 10:53 PM

oh.... if it's personal taste. sure. i don't do them myself.

just sayin... i don't think there are "limitations" inherent in the media...not stylistically anyway. obviously it's hard to get good shading and it sort of precludes fast sketch type stuff.

but theoretically... anything that's possible with an engraving is possible with a lino cut.

phoenix · 03.20.2008, 11:53 PM

I dont think its possible to get anywhere near as much detail, though..

m1rr0r dash · 03.21.2008, 12:09 AM

no...not in practice... not unless you made a huge one and reduce it to a thumbnail or something... god that would be tedious. how does anyone stare through a magnifying glass to do an engraving and not go crazy?

Death & the Maiden · 03.21.2008, 12:18 AM

The album cover for Thom Yorke's The Eraser is a lino cut.

Cantankerous · 03.21.2008, 12:20 AM

you mean block printing?
not a fan

m1rr0r dash · 03.21.2008, 12:43 AM

haha... make a lino cut that looks like a stencil!!

03.21.2008, 06:19 AM

I did a long time ago and the results were rubbish.

Toilet & Bowels · 03.21.2008, 07:04 AM

i really love woodcuts (not that i've ever done it myself) but i'e done a few lino cuts and it sucks.

03.20.2008, 07:10 PM	#1
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	one of my major projects is appaerntly a large/"ambitious" silk lino cut. lino cut is my most hated form of print making. which is why this is really difficult to get into. Generally I dislike the medium, the way it works, the look of the outcome, how painful it is to work (even though I've spent tens of hours hand burnishing copper before... this is different type of pain) and the fact that once I've used the lino I cant ever use it again. something tells me that none of you will have a flipping clue but if there is anyone who works with lino or has a favourite artist who works with lino, it'd be nice to get some more examples of styles I can try that look less.. classic. The only thing I've come across which is kind of interesting is this lady who does massive reduction lino prints with many colours... so it kind of looks like the watercolour effect in photoshop. But that is far too time consuming and whenever I've done reduction I start with a series of 20 and only end up with five. My lecturer suggestd I do a bleed print to help prevent this but another thing I like about print making is the large borders and lonliness type feeling a print can have when it is set well inside the paper margin. __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.20.2008, 07:14 PM	#2
ALIEN ANAL invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 5,461	iv done some lino during school, and i do have some blocks that i can work on but i havnt done any personal lino prints i dont think i find it as bad as you, there is some really groovy lino prints out there but unfortunately i dont know any artists to tell you __________________ www.instagram.com/alienanal
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03.20.2008, 07:22 PM	#3
This Is Not Here invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kingston-Upon-Thames, London Posts: 2,586	Lino cuts are appauling, I've been working in an art materials shop for 3 years, we stock all the lino-cut equipment and I don't think I've ever sold any of it on my shifts. So yeah, its unpopular because its rubbish, I realise this isn't what you want to be hearing right now, but there are so many other ways to achieve the same effect. __________________ http://images.google.co.uk/url?sourc...zLTl_B146tcuiw ~~Record of the moment~~
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03.20.2008, 07:24 PM	#4
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	Dont get me wrong, I do believe there is merrit in achieving a sense of movement, texture, etc when using lino. But.. I am yet to really see any artist use it in a way that goes beyond limits that appear time and time again when you see any lino print. In reality to me they all look the same. __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.20.2008, 08:59 PM	#5
Death & the Maiden expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,036	I love lino cut. Last year for my major work in art class, I did three lino prints with a Jam theme: one of Paul Weller, one of a traffic jam, and one of a row of jam jars (my teacher thought it was like Andy Warhol's works about mass production). I got good marks for it, 37/40. I should post it in the art thread. I know it can be really tedious and time consuming, but I really enjoy it. __________________ www.myspace.com/ghostofanidealwife
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03.20.2008, 10:17 PM	#6
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	Id love you to post pics of it! __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.20.2008, 10:22 PM	#7
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	__________________
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03.20.2008, 10:24 PM	#8
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	its nice. but it still looks like a lino cut. sigh. __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.20.2008, 10:32 PM	#10
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	actually woodcut woodcut looks just like lino: also woodcut: ^^^ you gonna argue with that? __________________
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03.20.2008, 10:47 PM	#11
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	Its just so.. illustrative. and non representational of my style of drawing and painting. __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.20.2008, 10:53 PM	#12
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	oh.... if it's personal taste. sure. i don't do them myself. just sayin... i don't think there are "limitations" inherent in the media...not stylistically anyway. obviously it's hard to get good shading and it sort of precludes fast sketch type stuff. but theoretically... anything that's possible with an engraving is possible with a lino cut. __________________
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03.20.2008, 11:53 PM	#13
phoenix invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the future where it's hot and dark Posts: 5,926	I dont think its possible to get anywhere near as much detail, though.. __________________ tiny and lost.
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03.21.2008, 12:09 AM	#14
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	no...not in practice... not unless you made a huge one and reduce it to a thumbnail or something... god that would be tedious. how does anyone stare through a magnifying glass to do an engraving and not go crazy? __________________
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03.21.2008, 12:18 AM	#15
Death & the Maiden expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,036	The album cover for Thom Yorke's The Eraser is a lino cut. __________________ www.myspace.com/ghostofanidealwife
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03.21.2008, 12:20 AM	#16
Cantankerous invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A RETIREMENT HOME Posts: 18,499	you mean block printing? not a fan
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03.21.2008, 12:43 AM	#17
m1rr0r dash invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: atari Posts: 2,228	haha... make a lino cut that looks like a stencil!! __________________
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03.21.2008, 06:19 AM	#18
sarramkrop Posts: n/a	I did a long time ago and the results were rubbish.
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03.21.2008, 07:04 AM	#19
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	i really love woodcuts (not that i've ever done it myself) but i'e done a few lino cuts and it sucks.
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