Why is NYCG&F regarded as one of their best? - Page 5

RanaldoNecro · 01.16.2010, 12:23 PM

Free City Rymes is magic...That one note that keeps sustaining..

It also took me a while but when I got it wow...

chicka · 01.16.2010, 01:58 PM

I'm listening to the download now. It's not a bad recording and what's real cool is they did it as an instrumental.....

ann ashtray · 01.16.2010, 03:55 PM

I like it. I like to think of it as an audio book with backing noise. Theres a story in there somewhere. Maybe not their strongest effort musically, but really stands out.

nicfit · 01.16.2010, 04:25 PM

I hate it.

Dead-Air · 01.16.2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I like it. I like to think of it as an audio book with backing noise. Theres a story in there somewhere. Maybe not their strongest effort musically, but really stands out musically.

I like your point about it being a story, almost concept album. I get that feel too. Maybe all of the spoken parts add to that feel. The title track definitely is a climax to an implied narrative.

EVOLghost · 01.16.2010, 04:51 PM

I agree with RanaldoNecro....Free City Rhymes is magic...and I love magic.

barry swedgin · 01.19.2010, 05:00 PM

It's the most atmospheric, I think. It has an intangible brilliance about it. I can't put my finger on it.

It's pretty experimental and 'out there' too. I can't imagine it gained SY any new fans if they discovered them with this album. Again, thats a great thing. SY couldnt care less if they gained new fans (at that time?) - this was for themselves and the existing fans.

It's esoteric. It's the discerning SY fans' album. Its cool as fuck.

Chris Lawrence · 01.19.2010, 09:22 PM

the bumbershoot recording trumps the album in basically every way, as far as i'm concerned. still think so 10 years later. still kick myself for fucking up the tape flip and missing the beginning of 'nyc ghosts'.

i had such high hopes for the material when i saw that show and listened to that recording over and over, it was so reminiscent of their early material, just totally broken down song construction with all kinds of 'odd' techniques to treat the instruments. the finished album, though good, captures almost none of that initial promise, and basically is what it is.

some great songs on there, most of which sounded better on the subsequent tour ('lightnin' in particular remains one of my favorite SY encore tunes, especially when they stretched it to 10+ minutes).

i'm not sure i'll ever be able to listen to this album and not feel a little disappointed.

Chris Lawrence · 01.19.2010, 09:24 PM

well that sounded negative... i guess the finished recorded versions were just not mixed the way i'd anticipated. the vocals always seemed tacked on at an inappropriate volume to me. i'd really have loved to have seen those 8 songs released as an instrumental SYR or something... i'm glad people like it though! i will keep revisiting it to see how my feelings change w/ time...

would love to score the vinyl too...

noisereductions · 01.19.2010, 09:25 PM

i'd kill for that "Nevermind" 7"... or the "Lightnin'" 7"

TommySY · 01.19.2010, 10:57 PM

Personally, I prefer The Eternal ... really

deflinus · 01.20.2010, 12:09 AM

this album stands out on it's own

Chris Lawrence · 01.20.2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by noisereductions

i'd kill for that "Nevermind" 7"... or the "Lightnin'" 7"

how about the "Free City Rhymes" 7"?

radarmaker · 01.20.2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

how about the "Free City Rhymes" 7"?

Fer reals? I'm still dubious about that Nevermind 7"...

spudsilo · 01.20.2010, 09:59 PM

Oh yeah, that Bumbershoot recording was where I first heard these songs, and I too have always thought they were way better than the final album (which I do like). Sounds like indonesian gamelan music.

SonicBebs · 01.21.2010, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

i'd really have loved to have seen those 8 songs released as an instrumental SYR or something...
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i've always thought that too. Would love to here the live instrumentals

01.16.2010, 12:23 PM	#81
RanaldoNecro expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eye Of The Squirrel Posts: 1,481	Free City Rymes is magic...That one note that keeps sustaining.. It also took me a while but when I got it wow... __________________ He is not Alone
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01.16.2010, 01:58 PM	#82
chicka expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wormtown MA Posts: 1,549	I'm listening to the download now. It's not a bad recording and what's real cool is they did it as an instrumental..... __________________ some men just want to watch the world burn
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01.16.2010, 03:55 PM	#83
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	I like it. I like to think of it as an audio book with backing noise. Theres a story in there somewhere. Maybe not their strongest effort musically, but really stands out.
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01.16.2010, 04:25 PM	#84
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I hate it. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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01.16.2010, 04:51 PM	#86
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	I agree with RanaldoNecro....Free City Rhymes is magic...and I love magic.
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01.19.2010, 05:00 PM	#87
barry swedgin bad moon rising Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 187	It's the most atmospheric, I think. It has an intangible brilliance about it. I can't put my finger on it. It's pretty experimental and 'out there' too. I can't imagine it gained SY any new fans if they discovered them with this album. Again, thats a great thing. SY couldnt care less if they gained new fans (at that time?) - this was for themselves and the existing fans. It's esoteric. It's the discerning SY fans' album. Its cool as fuck. __________________ Purse With Pound
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01.19.2010, 09:22 PM	#88
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,892	the bumbershoot recording trumps the album in basically every way, as far as i'm concerned. still think so 10 years later. still kick myself for fucking up the tape flip and missing the beginning of 'nyc ghosts'. i had such high hopes for the material when i saw that show and listened to that recording over and over, it was so reminiscent of their early material, just totally broken down song construction with all kinds of 'odd' techniques to treat the instruments. the finished album, though good, captures almost none of that initial promise, and basically is what it is. some great songs on there, most of which sounded better on the subsequent tour ('lightnin' in particular remains one of my favorite SY encore tunes, especially when they stretched it to 10+ minutes). i'm not sure i'll ever be able to listen to this album and not feel a little disappointed. __________________ http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang // original folk blues ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .i'm the boy that can enjoy invisibility. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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01.19.2010, 09:24 PM	#89
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,892	well that sounded negative... i guess the finished recorded versions were just not mixed the way i'd anticipated. the vocals always seemed tacked on at an inappropriate volume to me. i'd really have loved to have seen those 8 songs released as an instrumental SYR or something... i'm glad people like it though! i will keep revisiting it to see how my feelings change w/ time... would love to score the vinyl too... __________________ http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang // original folk blues ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .i'm the boy that can enjoy invisibility. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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01.19.2010, 09:25 PM	#90
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	i'd kill for that "Nevermind" 7"... or the "Lightnin'" 7" __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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01.19.2010, 10:57 PM	#91
TommySY empty page Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 10	Personally, I prefer The Eternal ... really
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01.20.2010, 12:09 AM	#92
deflinus expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the darkest part of your mind Posts: 1,737	this album stands out on it's own
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01.20.2010, 09:59 PM	#95
spudsilo empty page Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8	Oh yeah, that Bumbershoot recording was where I first heard these songs, and I too have always thought they were way better than the final album (which I do like). Sounds like indonesian gamelan music. __________________ Woodie Gutherie sang about B-E-E-T-S, not B-E-A-T-S.
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