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Well I am just listening to it now, will let you know when it's over.

[atsonicpark]

cool thanks.

It's no biggy either way, I just figured someone would enjoy.


I KNOW HOW TO GET FAMOUS!

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Hey Adam, that was pretty good. I just think it ended too abruptly. It should have had a segue to finish it. I don't know, the ending needed something.

[atsonicpark]

Cool thanks, um, I was thinking the same thing and actually my bandmate Kyle is going to add some stuff to it anyway so it'll probably end up being pretty good. haha.

[fugazifan]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

From R. Crutch:

Whenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species. To this end, I hold M&M duels.

Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together until one of them breaks and splinters. That is the "loser," and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round. I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theater of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world.

Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment.

When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc., Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3x5 card reading, "Please use this M&M for breeding purposes."

This week they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of plain M&Ms. I consider this "grant money." I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds, we will discover the True Champion.

There can be only one.

hahahahah....soooo funny

[Iain]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

The reason I bumped this thread...

For the new scissor shock album, I made up 50 promo copies. The actual album is going to be limited to 50 copies, so I made up 50 promos, which had the art copied from a printer with some neatly-handwritten text for the tracklisting, album title, etc. You know, not a super professional thing but actually quite time consuming and costly when you consider I mailed out 50 of these to places like Bulgaria and shit.

Anyway, the response has been quite good, a lot of people like the new album..

But I've gotten one email from someone saying they wouldn't review it because there's no packaging.. okay, fair enough.. then I got a review from vitalweekly saying how the music was great but the packaging sucked so they weren't going to say anything about it until I sent them a well packaged release.

Now in all seriousness, when did noise and related genres become all about the packaging? My music has always been about music and nothnig more -- I don't give a fuck if it's packaged in a condom or whatever, that's the last thing on my mind. However, the more I started thinking about it, the more I noticed noise releases over the years........ "this is some good feedback stuff but MAN THE PACKAGINGI S CRAZY" I always see reviews like that, never noticed it before.

I'm going to do an experiment wherein I release something in the craziest fucking package ever and release a CD of silence and see how many good reviews I get.

Funny you should mention that actually. I was reading a review only today on Vital Weekley (of Goh Lee Kwang) that complained about the packaging. Frans De Waard obviously has a thing about packaging.

[atsonicpark]

Well one guy emailed me (not the vitalweekly guy) and said, "Well, we like to mention the packaging in our reviews." And I replied, "Well, even though this a promo, the actual copy won't have fancy packaging either. Why not review the music instead?"

I just didn't know the noise/experimental/avant/etc scene was so.. um... package-obsessed. But I guess it makes sense.. when you hear 100 albums of interchangeable drone, static, and feedback, the only way they'll stick out in your mind is if they have pretty packages.

[Rob Instigator]

look at wolf eyes releases. ost of it is horrid turgid shit, but theior albums look great. it makes people like it when the music sucks ass.

see YES, ASIA, BOSTON etc for previous decades examples of shit music hidden by "cool" cover packaging

[atsonicpark]

I dunno, I've just never understood being fetishistic over packaging. It makes Fight Club that more relevant, which is a silly thing to say, but people obsessed with their cars, their clothes, their tables in the shape of a yin yang?

That's the noise scene.. obsessed with their "etchings" and their "cd-covered-in-slime-and-put-in-a-bag-of-fetuses" and "hey who knows if the music is good or if it'll even PLAY once you buy the album - 10/10!"

[Rob Instigator]

frankly, besides the die hards here on this forum, I do not know of anyone who listens to any noise release more than once really (I listen to it more than once)

it makes the fetish attitude even more heightened when the packaging is freaky
plus it ensures that you will "sell" all 50 or 100 copies of what you put out, and in twenty years, if you are MISFITS-lucky, those crap ass items will cost $400 on Ebay

[atsonicpark]

haha.

[atsonicpark]

well, my thing is, noise can be the best thing in the world when it's done right.

but most of the time, total bullshit will get recognized for having "good" packaging.