i just realised

ni'k · 10.25.2006, 08:12 PM

it is nice to vent sometimes.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 10.25.2006, 09:10 PM

I agreed with a lot of what you said.

However....

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anyone remember the 90's when world peace was at our grasps?

I must have been sleeping with this almost happened.

Nice post, either way.

static-harmony · 10.25.2006, 11:59 PM

I agree with you, experimenting with pop music would be a better indie thing to do, than calling it a sham.

porkmarras · 10.26.2006, 04:03 AM

If you slag off the 80s you obviously weren't there.There is plently of good music around at any point in time but if by good music you mean only 'rock' stuff,well,tough shit matey!

Glice · 10.26.2006, 07:22 AM

All eras are rubbish. All eras are great. Nostalgia is just as shit as it ever was - anyone remember the attempted skiffle/ trad-jazz revival when rock n' roll was kicking off? What about the light-music revival around the time that Basie was swinging his thing?. Some music now will look awful. Some won't. Some will never look awful in spite of it actually being awful (Sigur Ros/ GSYBE).

I have mates who were there for the first generation of British punks. They said it was shit. Anyone too young for it says it must've been great. It's all shits and giggles really.

Danny Himself · 10.26.2006, 07:43 AM

I will look back on those fucking polo shirts with 'vintage' or 'university athletics 42' written all over them in disgust. The fucking clothes in this decade have been shit.

Not to mention the war politics, crap adverts for elephant.co.uk and confused.com, the rise of british tosser-rock, the fall of good childrens books, and men wearing false tan make-up and having stupid hairstyles that involve buckets of gel to stick their hair to the sides of their face or some shit.

Danny Himself · 10.26.2006, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice

I have mates who were there for the first generation of British punks. They said it was shit. Anyone too young for it says it must've been great. It's all shits and giggles really.

I bet it was shit. Probably like today's emo generation. I hate those fucking tossers who look at bands like Black Flag and (to a lesser extent) Be Your Own PET, and are all like "I saw it all before in '77. Now The Jam, they were real punks. And the Undertones too." Fuck off. Quadrophenia can suck my balls.

toxic johnny · 10.26.2006, 08:08 AM

Well I was there and it totally wasn't shit... The Jam weren't punks they were more revisionist Mod's and The Undertones were New Wave... What you have to realise is that the musical climate was completely different then... people tend to judge punk by today's fast food commodoty standards, and this is wrong... it's a little naive to write off the impact that Punk made at the time. For me it was just as much about the attitude and the politics of identity and rebellion as it was about the actual music per se... and yes a lot of the music was shit but that was made by people who didn't understand the ideals of the original bands... it was all over by the time the Pistols played their final gig in San Francisco in January 1978 anyway.

Looking back on it all now I think that musically Post Punk was far more interesting.

Danny Himself · 10.26.2006, 09:39 AM

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The Jam weren't punks they were more revisionist Mod's and The Undertones were New Wave...

That's what I was getting at.

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Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	I will look back on those fucking polo shirts with 'vintage' or 'university athletics 42' written all over them in disgust. The fucking clothes in this decade have been shit. Not to mention the war politics, crap adverts for elephant.co.uk and confused.com, the rise of british tosser-rock, the fall of good childrens books, and men wearing false tan make-up and having stupid hairstyles that involve buckets of gel to stick their hair to the sides of their face or some shit.
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toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	Well I was there and it totally wasn't shit... The Jam weren't punks they were more revisionist Mod's and The Undertones were New Wave... What you have to realise is that the musical climate was completely different then... people tend to judge punk by today's fast food commodoty standards, and this is wrong... it's a little naive to write off the impact that Punk made at the time. For me it was just as much about the attitude and the politics of identity and rebellion as it was about the actual music per se... and yes a lot of the music was shit but that was made by people who didn't understand the ideals of the original bands... it was all over by the time the Pistols played their final gig in San Francisco in January 1978 anyway. Looking back on it all now I think that musically Post Punk was far more interesting. __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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