comics/graphic novels

whorefrost · 07.27.2006, 03:10 PM

hey dudes. inspired by reading Ghost World, I recently picked up three other Daniel Clowes titles: 20th Century Eightball, David Boring, and Caricature. I enjoyed them immensely and plan to get Ice Haven and Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron next.
I wondered if anyone knows of any other contemporary cartoonists working in a similar vein. I have made a list of the following names initial internet research over amazon and wikipedia:

jeffrey brown
adrian tomine
charles burns
craig thompson
simone lia
david b.

anyone know of these artists/give me any recommendations?
thanks

Glice · 07.27.2006, 03:12 PM

PM Toilet & Bowels. He seems to know about this kind of thing. He is a spacker though.

gmku · 07.27.2006, 03:12 PM

I've read some Charles Burn. Black Hole is a trip.

I'm not widely read in graphic novels, but Clowes is a favorite of mine.

Richard Pryor on Fire · 07.27.2006, 03:41 PM

I like Frank Miller, His batman books are killer.

Rob Instigator · 07.27.2006, 03:48 PM

To get a good background in the top quality graphic novels

get

Art Spiegelman's MAUS (I got my hardcover copy signed by Mr Spiegelman himself when he visited the Houston Holocaust Museum)

Alan Moore's FROM HELL (highly detailed story about jack the Ripper, a BILLION times better than the movie)
and Alan Moore's WATCHMEN (my single favorite graphic novel.)

Frank Miller's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS is a work of pure sick twisted genius.

touch me i'm sick · 07.27.2006, 04:25 PM

watchmen is excellent

gmku · 07.27.2006, 04:36 PM

Sin City

Toilet & Bowels · 07.27.2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whorefrost

hey dudes. inspired by reading Ghost World, I recently picked up three other Daniel Clowes titles: 20th Century Eightball, David Boring, and Caricature. I enjoyed them immensely and plan to get Ice Haven and Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron next.
I wondered if anyone knows of any other contemporary cartoonists working in a similar vein. I have made a list of the following names initial internet research over amazon and wikipedia:

jeffrey brown
adrian tomine
charles burns
craig thompson
simone lia
david b.

anyone know of these artists/give me any recommendations?
thanks

i don't like what i've read by craig thompson (goodbye chunky rice) but his book blankets seemed to be quite popular last year

yoshihiro tatsumi is an ace, i've only read one book by him "good bye" and i highly recommend it.

chris ware, get everything by him, he's a true genius. maybe start with "jimmy corrigan: the smartest kid on earth"

daniel clowes, get everything

charles burns - "big baby" and "black hole" are the only things i've read by him, his art work is my favourite in all of comics and he's a great writer too.

harvey pekar - "american splendour" & "bob & harv's comics" the second one a collection of his collaborations with robert crumb

jaime & gilbert hernandez - love and rockets, gilbert is probably my favourite writer in comics, and jaime is excellent too, and they both produce some beautiful drawing.

david b. - epileptic, i wasn't crazy about this book, but my housemate who is epileptic herself thought it was the most insightful articulation of epilepsy she had ever read.

adrian tomine, i've only read one book by him, "summer blonde", i liked it, but you should ask skreaming skull about tomine as she is a big fan of his.

scott mccloud - "understanding comics" i'm reading this at the moment and it's a comic that is an analysis of the mechanics of comics, it's extremely interesting, but probably one to read one you've got more into comics in general.

seth - "it's a good life if you don't weaken"

joe sacco - "safe area gorazde", "palestine" sacco is a journalist and he went to visit these places, palestine in the early 90s, and gorazde during the yugoslav war in the mid 90s, and then wrote these books detailing his experiences and those of other people, the gorazde book is particularly amazing.

peter bagge - hate

secret comics japan - mind fucking collection of japanese underground comics

bizarro comics - underground/independent comics writers get given the opportunity to write for DC comics (superman, batman etc). hilarious.

taiyo matsumoto - black & white

junji ito - uzumaki, weird and ace japanese horror comic about a town that gets goes insane under the spell of spirals.

katsuhiro otomo - akira, everyone has seen the film, but the comic is about 9,000,000 times better. READ IT!

hideshi hino - panorama of hell, another totally fucked japanese horror comic, disturbing and amazing

tony millionaire - maakies, a strip about an alcoholic monkey and an alcoholic crow sailing the high seas as part of the crew of a galleon.

nicfit · 07.27.2006, 04:52 PM

great suggestions (rob insitigator rules)
it is not a proper novel,but TRANSMETROPOLITAN is amazing.
but i think almost none of the suggestions are in daniel clowes style...

nicfit · 07.27.2006, 04:53 PM

otomo is a god.

Hip Priest · 07.27.2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

...joe sacco - "safe area gorazde", "palestine" sacco is a journalist and he went to visit these places, palestine in the early 90s, and gorazde during the yugoslav war in the mid 90s, and then wrote these books detailing his experiences and those of other people, the gorazde book is particularly amazing...

I don't read too many comics, but I'm going to look these up a bit more. They sound like a nice work - two styles mixed together.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 07.27.2006, 06:38 PM

Si.

Toilet & Bowels · 07.27.2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

but i think almost none of the suggestions are in daniel clowes style...

everything i mentioned is the type of stuff someone who is into clowes would probably read.

Iain · 07.27.2006, 07:29 PM

Concrete by Paul Chadwick is really good. Guy gets turned into a big rock typr creature...it's about how he deals with that basically. Not superhero-y at all. It's great.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 07.27.2006, 08:26 PM

my sister writes for these things, and her boyfriend draws. I dont get it myself, but apparantly she has been trying to make a living from it. Truthfully, I can't even remember the website....

http://www.cellardoorpublishing.com

(how sad, I had to google to find my own sister's website)

Toilet & Bowels · 07.27.2006, 09:02 PM

i forgot to mention james kochalka, his books are good too. Super Fuckers is probably my favourite, although it is only available as a comic at the moment.

Пятхъдесят Шест · 07.27.2006, 09:07 PM

I figured more of you would be into The Maxx. Crazy drawings, and totally weird storylines.

k-krack · 07.27.2006, 09:13 PM

i loved (Clowes) Like A Velvet Glove Cast In Iron. i'm buying Ghost World as sooon as i have some spare money.

toxic johnny · 07.28.2006, 05:45 AM

I don't read graphic novels very often... in fact I'd like to read more. So I'm learning from this thread.

I totally agree with T+B as far as Charles Burns goes... I enjoy his work on many levels.

Ted McKeever is another great... his graphic novel Metropol is fantastic.

whorefrost · 07.28.2006, 05:55 AM

T & B, yr list looks as if it will prove indispensable to me... many thanks..

07.27.2006, 03:10 PM	#1
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,569	hey dudes. inspired by reading Ghost World, I recently picked up three other Daniel Clowes titles: 20th Century Eightball, David Boring, and Caricature. I enjoyed them immensely and plan to get Ice Haven and Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron next. I wondered if anyone knows of any other contemporary cartoonists working in a similar vein. I have made a list of the following names initial internet research over amazon and wikipedia: jeffrey brown adrian tomine charles burns craig thompson simone lia david b. anyone know of these artists/give me any recommendations? thanks __________________ hehehe
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07.27.2006, 03:12 PM	#3
gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	I've read some Charles Burn. Black Hole is a trip. I'm not widely read in graphic novels, but Clowes is a favorite of mine.
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07.27.2006, 03:48 PM	#5
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	To get a good background in the top quality graphic novels get Art Spiegelman's MAUS (I got my hardcover copy signed by Mr Spiegelman himself when he visited the Houston Holocaust Museum) Alan Moore's FROM HELL (highly detailed story about jack the Ripper, a BILLION times better than the movie) and Alan Moore's WATCHMEN (my single favorite graphic novel.) Frank Miller's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS is a work of pure sick twisted genius. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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07.27.2006, 04:25 PM	#6
touch me i'm sick expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,936	watchmen is excellent
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gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	Sin City
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07.27.2006, 04:52 PM	#9
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	great suggestions (rob insitigator rules) it is not a proper novel,but TRANSMETROPOLITAN is amazing. but i think almost none of the suggestions are in daniel clowes style... __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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07.27.2006, 04:53 PM	#10
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	otomo is a god. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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07.27.2006, 06:38 PM	#12
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	Si.
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07.27.2006, 07:29 PM	#14
Iain invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,544	Concrete by Paul Chadwick is really good. Guy gets turned into a big rock typr creature...it's about how he deals with that basically. Not superhero-y at all. It's great.
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07.27.2006, 08:26 PM	#15
SuchFriendsAreDangerous invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: fucking Los Angeles Posts: 14,801	my sister writes for these things, and her boyfriend draws. I dont get it myself, but apparantly she has been trying to make a living from it. Truthfully, I can't even remember the website.... http://www.cellardoorpublishing.com (how sad, I had to google to find my own sister's website) __________________ Today Rap music is the Lakers
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07.27.2006, 09:02 PM	#16
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,268	i forgot to mention james kochalka, his books are good too. Super Fuckers is probably my favourite, although it is only available as a comic at the moment.
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07.27.2006, 09:07 PM	#17
Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	I figured more of you would be into The Maxx. Crazy drawings, and totally weird storylines.
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07.27.2006, 09:13 PM	#18
k-krack invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: On Posts: 7,380	i loved (Clowes) Like A Velvet Glove Cast In Iron. i'm buying Ghost World as sooon as i have some spare money. __________________ sandwich klub 4 men. Danny is a C.H.U.D.
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07.28.2006, 05:45 AM	#19
toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	I don't read graphic novels very often... in fact I'd like to read more. So I'm learning from this thread. I totally agree with T+B as far as Charles Burns goes... I enjoy his work on many levels. Ted McKeever is another great... his graphic novel Metropol is fantastic. __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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07.28.2006, 05:55 AM	#20
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,569	T & B, yr list looks as if it will prove indispensable to me... many thanks.. __________________ hehehe
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