UK: Holocaust dropped from history lessons

Bastian · 04.02.2007, 02:50 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...&ito =newsnow

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Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims
By LAURA CLARK

Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Governmentbacked study has revealed.
It found some teachers are reluctant to cover the atrocity for fear of upsetting students whose beliefs include Holocaust denial.[..]

Unbelievable! What is that? A belated April fool hoax? But the article says 2nd April 2007.. is it really that bad already?

sonicl · 04.02.2007, 02:56 AM

I'm sorry to say this is probably true. Our nation's whole constitution seems to be being re-written so as not to offend anyone.

SynthethicalY · 04.02.2007, 03:15 AM

I think that is stupid to not offend people. You just have too at some points.

the ikara cult · 04.02.2007, 03:20 AM

I never learned about The Holocaust in school. Or was i just not paying attention?

demonrail666 · 04.02.2007, 03:38 AM

Trying to teach history in such a way as to not offend anyone is to forget that some things in history are actually offensive.

sonicl · 04.02.2007, 03:48 AM

I'm surprised that we haven't yet seen the usual press outcry about some local council saying that Easter must be called "Spring Festival" so as not to upset non-Christians.

demonrail666 · 04.02.2007, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sonicl

I'm surprised that we haven't yet seen the usual press outcry about some local council saying that Easter must be called "Spring Festival" so as not to upset non-Christians.

I give up.

jon boy · 04.02.2007, 04:46 AM

holo what?

screamingskull · 04.02.2007, 05:58 AM

our holocaust lessons at school seemed to consist of watching shindlers list. Still it's really stupid to stop teaching it in schools if this is true.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.02.2007, 06:02 AM

so surely this going to offend jews then?

sonicl · 04.02.2007, 06:06 AM

But there are less of them than there are of... whoever it is that might be offended by teaching about the holocaust.

I've just realised, this article is from the Daily Mail. It is, therefore, with apologies to anyone who may be offended by this opinion, a load of right-wing shite.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.02.2007, 06:10 AM

yeah, i noticed that so i looked it up on the guardian website, here's their more level headed version:

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Schools drop Holocaust lessons

Jeevan Vasagar
Monday April 2, 2007
The Guardian

Schools have avoided teaching the Holocaust and the Crusades in history lessons because they are concerned about causing offence to Muslim pupils or challenging "charged" versions of history which children have been taught at home, government research has found.A report for the Department for Education and Skills found that a history department in a northern city had avoided selecting the Holocaust as a GCSE topic for fear of confronting "anti-semitic sentiment and Holocaust denial" among some Muslim pupils.
Another school decided to teach the Holocaust despite anti-semitic sentiment among students, but avoided the Crusades as "their balanced treatment of the topic would have directly challenged what was taught in some local mosques".
The report, Teaching Emotive and Controversial History, also revealed that one school was challenged by Christian parents for teachers' treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
A DfES spokesman said: "It's up to schools to make a judgment on non-compulsory parts of the national curriculum. It is a broad framework and there is scope for schools to make their own decisions."
Teaching of the Holocaust is expected to become compulsory under the new national curriculum from next year.

Danny Himself · 04.02.2007, 06:12 AM

Taking a History class in the UK is the most depressing thing ever.

Up to year 9 all I learned about was The Blitz, The Holocaust, and the horrible details about how gas peeled people's faces off and made them vomit their own lungs up. For some reason I ended up taking a History GCSE, and it's even more depressing! We started off with World War One- trench foot, bodies being eaten by rats, starvation. Then we moved on to The Rise of Hitler- need I say more? THEN we had to learn about Vietnam, and how napalm burns young children. THEN of course, we move on to the USSR 1945-1990. It is the most depressing country on earth.

In short, I'm glad something has been removed from this depress-o-rama, but this seems to have been taken out for all the wrong reasons. I think after what muslims did to the London Transportation System we shouldn't really bother about pissing them off anymore.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.02.2007, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself

Taking a History class in the UK is the most depressing thing ever.

Up to year 9 all I learned about was The Blitz, The Holocaust, and the horrible details about how gas peeled people's faces off and made them vomit their own lungs up. For some reason I ended up taking a History GCSE, and it's even more depressing! We started off with World War One- trench foot, bodies being eaten by rats, starvation. Then we moved on to The Rise of Hitler- need I say more? THEN we had to learn about Vietnam, and how napalm burns young children. THEN of course, we move on to the USSR 1945-1990. It is the most depressing country on earth.

In short, I'm glad something has been removed from this depress-o-rama, but this seems to have been taken out for all the wrong reasons. I think after what muslims did to the London Transportation System we shouldn't really bother about pissing them off anymore.

where to start?

sonicl · 04.02.2007, 06:19 AM

Things will get worse, I have no doubt about that. It won't be long before the government is saying sorry to Moslems for the hurt caused by the Crusades.

A Thousand Threads · 04.02.2007, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Himself

Taking a History class in the UK is the most depressing thing ever.

Up to year 9 all I learned about was The Blitz, The Holocaust, and the horrible details about how gas peeled people's faces off and made them vomit their own lungs up. For some reason I ended up taking a History GCSE, and it's even more depressing! We started off with World War One- trench foot, bodies being eaten by rats, starvation. Then we moved on to The Rise of Hitler- need I say more? THEN we had to learn about Vietnam, and how napalm burns young children. THEN of course, we move on to the USSR 1945-1990. It is the most depressing country on earth.

In short, I'm glad something has been removed from this depress-o-rama, but this seems to have been taken out for all the wrong reasons. I think after what muslims did to the London Transportation System we shouldn't really bother about pissing them off anymore.

?!?
are you drunk?

sonicl · 04.02.2007, 06:25 AM

From what I understand from my niece, who is fourteen, history before the twentieth century just does not get taught in schools now. The point of history lessons today seems not to be to teach how the world became what it is today but to teach that nothing good comes of being nasty to one another. Hence it's all the dark stuff that gets taught.

jon boy · 04.02.2007, 06:30 AM

british schools history lessons are pretty bad. many germans i talked too knew more about british history than i.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.02.2007, 07:22 AM

when i did history GCSE i don't think we learned any british history, other than the two world wars.

screamingskull · 04.02.2007, 07:34 AM

we watched Roots!!!!

04.02.2007, 02:56 AM	#2
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I'm sorry to say this is probably true. Our nation's whole constitution seems to be being re-written so as not to offend anyone.
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SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	I think that is stupid to not offend people. You just have too at some points.
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04.02.2007, 03:20 AM	#4
the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	I never learned about The Holocaust in school. Or was i just not paying attention?
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04.02.2007, 03:38 AM	#5
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Trying to teach history in such a way as to not offend anyone is to forget that some things in history are actually offensive.
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04.02.2007, 03:48 AM	#6
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	I'm surprised that we haven't yet seen the usual press outcry about some local council saying that Easter must be called "Spring Festival" so as not to upset non-Christians.
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jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	holo what? __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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04.02.2007, 05:58 AM	#9
screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	our holocaust lessons at school seemed to consist of watching shindlers list. Still it's really stupid to stop teaching it in schools if this is true.
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	so surely this going to offend jews then?
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04.02.2007, 06:06 AM	#11
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	But there are less of them than there are of... whoever it is that might be offended by teaching about the holocaust. I've just realised, this article is from the Daily Mail. It is, therefore, with apologies to anyone who may be offended by this opinion, a load of right-wing shite.
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04.02.2007, 06:12 AM	#13
Danny Himself invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,623	Taking a History class in the UK is the most depressing thing ever. Up to year 9 all I learned about was The Blitz, The Holocaust, and the horrible details about how gas peeled people's faces off and made them vomit their own lungs up. For some reason I ended up taking a History GCSE, and it's even more depressing! We started off with World War One- trench foot, bodies being eaten by rats, starvation. Then we moved on to The Rise of Hitler- need I say more? THEN we had to learn about Vietnam, and how napalm burns young children. THEN of course, we move on to the USSR 1945-1990. It is the most depressing country on earth. In short, I'm glad something has been removed from this depress-o-rama, but this seems to have been taken out for all the wrong reasons. I think after what muslims did to the London Transportation System we shouldn't really bother about pissing them off anymore.
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04.02.2007, 06:19 AM	#15
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	Things will get worse, I have no doubt about that. It won't be long before the government is saying sorry to Moslems for the hurt caused by the Crusades.
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04.02.2007, 06:25 AM	#17
sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	From what I understand from my niece, who is fourteen, history before the twentieth century just does not get taught in schools now. The point of history lessons today seems not to be to teach how the world became what it is today but to teach that nothing good comes of being nasty to one another. Hence it's all the dark stuff that gets taught.
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04.02.2007, 06:30 AM	#18
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	british schools history lessons are pretty bad. many germans i talked too knew more about british history than i. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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04.02.2007, 07:22 AM	#19
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,262	when i did history GCSE i don't think we learned any british history, other than the two world wars.
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screamingskull invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: england Posts: 5,580	we watched Roots!!!!
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