[SonikJesus]

everything is an imitation of something already done. has every song already been written? everytime i hear a pop song its nothing new; a 4/4 or other basic beat, a simple chord progression, some cliche lyrics, processed manufactured crap to be sold to the youth. the underground isnt much different. there've been underground bands before and they all used the same shit the new kids do. jazz is jazz, rap is rap. everything is a product; food, water, happiness, medicine, transportation, animal life, fake love,advice, art, etc. i wouldnt be surprised if they start selling clean air in the future. is this the pinnacle of society? we drive cars. we go to work to jobs we hate. we shop at various stores. we go out and drink or do drugs to knowingly or unknowingly forget that life sucks. we talk about stupidass shit like tv or some commodity we want or just got. we pass our spare time with meaningless activites/hobbies. weve done this for around a century. this is what we do. we are content with this. WE ARE DIVIDED. is this the pinnacle? everything does fall eventually. we might even be close to a giant war. thats not unreasonable to say. everything falls. everything breaks.

the only real thing is true love.

but people nowadays... whatever

[evollove]

music: You've fallen into a trap. Because you cannot imagine something new--and most people cannot, so no shame--you assume no one else can. Don't worry--the future of rock is out there somewhere.

society: Yes, nearly everything is a commodity, or can be commodified. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, not always. Have fun with it, just be careful.

PS- I'm in a good mood.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

the future of rock is out there somewhere.

a museum

Originally Posted by SonikJesus

the only real thing is true love.

but people nowadays... whatever

people? who cares. can't control 8 billion humans.

the only real question is what you're going to do with what you've found out -- yes?

[Toilet & Bowels]

Well I don't know what you mean by pinnacle, but whatever you mean it isn't now.

[dead_battery]

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

"Nothing is new under the sun, all is the same." Ecclesiastes

[Toilet & Bowels]

I prefer this, from Heraclitus:

δὶς ἐς τὸν αὐτὸν ποταμὸν οὐκ ἂν ἐμβαίης.

• You can't step into the same river twice.

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

the only real question is what you're going to do with what you've found out -- yes?

this.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

I prefer this, from Heraclitus:

δὶς ἐς τὸν αὐτὸν ποταμὸν οὐκ ἂν ἐμβαίης.

• You can't step into the same river twice.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Toilet & Bowels again.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by SonikJesus

yeah youre right about controlling humans and i have known and accepted this but it is insanely depressing as well as isolating sometimes; alone yet in a place where there are millions around me. and yes that is the question, im too scared to do anything it seems; an awakened sheep.

And the future of rock is out there but it wont be original because it will be rock. originality within a set of parameters known as rock is not original, it is merely an imitation or an emulation. the same tools and structures will be used; and it will be sold. the same goes for any genre though i hate the term "genre."

life is damn weird. we just take what is told to us and accept it as the truth though we have never actually seen or understood any of it with our own eyes and mind. i dont know what to believe anymore. everything is questioned. even basic history and science that I was taught (or rather programmed) in my days as an ignorant child in the schooling system. i mean the schooling system is part of this societal system that we are put into so why not question it. what the fuck is real and what is a lie. there are no doubt powerful people behind the scenes shaping society. what can i do? im just one man not to mention a minority. the only things I know to be true are my own experiences and morals. i desire and try to be righteous though i am human and thus not perfect. im not crazy though its possible one day i might snap as they say. i hope that doesnt happen but rationality tells me it is possible given the mental path i am on. ignorance is bliss. most or all cliches are true.

well it's not that complicated really. you don't need to resort to paranoias or overworry about the "powerful people behind the scenes".

the answer is really lots simpler and you already had it.

your original posting said:

"the only real thing is true love."

well then. that's your solution. not to sound overly religious but you could start by practicing "true love" to transcend your depression and isolation and fear, etc. seriously.

or in a language that i prefer, you could practice compassion towards your fellow sheep-- and yourself included. you could even extend that compassion towards the miserable powerful who need to fill their emptiness by controlling others.

there. hows that for starters?

no "but people..." or other excuses.

feel free to pelt me with bananas but please no avocado pits or hard fruit like apples, or worse, coconuts.

[SonikJesus]

i have empathy and i have compassion towards everyone. i understand them and the place we are all brought up in and what it does to the minds of people. i hate no one except any violent, greedy, oppressors. i am not paranoid just open minded. i dont trip about those things they just piss me off.

everything is a lie. eveything is a product. there is no honesty. not 100% obviously but the vast majority. it seems pessimistic but its what i see. And im over it. fucking over it. love and family is all we need. Thanks. you are the tiny minority. peace

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by SonikJesus

everything is a lie. eveything is a product. there is no honesty. not 100% obviously but the vast majority. it seems pessimistic but its what i see. And im over it. fucking over it.

See, either you recently ate some mushrooms and the full effect of vision hasn't fully formed yet or you just need to eat some and speed up this process of revelation. Disillusionment is the first step to psychological and spiritual freedom. Once you to the core of your being understand this is Plato's cave you can learn the cheat codes to better enjoy the game.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

By the way, indeed love and family is all we need yet the deeper we dive into that as the years go by we find these are sometimes even more challenging than society! Hence again disillusionment with reality and discovering the cheat codes.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

music is a commodity now. treated like some skank sank to sell you shit. I don't like it and you should not either. music is devalued now.

 

 

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

how bout you just get mr dick clark to sell me some avocados instead. he's dead right??

"youth culture" appeared when business discovered that teenagers had money to spend and started marketing to them.

there was never a golden age of purity.

mozart had patrons.

art and money may fight in public but they fuck in bathroom stalls.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

nah, they're not just finger banging anymore. it's a full blown hardcore orgy. and shooting the load in my face.

i tire of this, but art has always flourished where there's been an abundance of money and commerce.

mesopotamian cities

ancient egyptian kings

ancient athens

ancient rome

medieval churches & monasteries

multiple chinese kingdoms

various islamic caliphates

renaissance italy

17th century holand

18-19th century england/scotland

19th century paris

the wpa during the great depression

20th century new york

etc.

okay, good enough.

adios.

[dead_battery]

best new poster

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by dead_battery

best new poster

it's one of the worst sock puppets ever.

whoever created it needs to keep their day job. just saying.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

it's one of the worst sock puppets ever.

whoever created it needs to keep their day job. just saying.

In the context of a Sonic Youth forum well past its prime i think its brilliant.

Originally Posted by pissonu

 

 

Originally Posted by pissonu

Fuck this nigga Thurston.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

In the context of a Sonic Youth forum well past its prime i think its brilliant.

see, you're always wrong so this just confirms it ha ha ha