[SynthethicalY]

Teacher. Next year after I transfer to a Uni I want to pursue this career.

[youthoftomorrow]

i've thought about being an art teacher. i just don't think i do enough art to justify that.

[SynthethicalY]

Art History teacher?

[Washing Machine]

Don't become a teacher. I can't think of a worse job.

I eventually want be a university lecturer though.

[cuetzpalin]

a friend of mine is an art teacher and it sucks. stupid little wannabe artists, not much money for it.. but i think it may be an interesting job

[Alex's Trip]

I think I'd enjoy being a teacher. Some of the teachers I've had make me want to be a teacher. I really do like education (not quite school, but education). I think I could be a teacher and try to make education enjoyable like some of the teachers I've had.

I'm really not sure though...

[Washing Machine]

Why work in schools when you can work in universities and colleges?
Better pay, Better working enviroment, you dont end practically babysitting idiots and people think you are a cool interlectual guy!

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

I eventually want be a university lecturer though.

I can't think of a worse job than that.

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well actually the job is good but it's the career path that sucks.

in amerikkka, school teachers get better money than your average university prof, unless the prof stops teaching & becomes an administrator. if that's whay you want get an MBA and become a business person, i think.

but while the teacher will do perfectly well w/ a master's degree, the prof will be required to toil for years in poverty and obscurity in the pursuit of a doctorate which may or may not get him the desired position. especialy i'm talking about the humanities. the humanities are dead.

oh and college students are worse idiots to babysit, because they are older and should know better, but still behave like overgrown children, and act like twatty customers who are not being served.

,,,

i think you might be delusional

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

I can't think of a worse job than that.

Why? are you one? is this some warning?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

Why? are you one? is this some warning?

im a PHD DROPOUT. for a good reason!

[StevOK]

I want to be a music teacher. Well, if the whole "rock star" thing doesn't pan out, that is.

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

I can't think of a worse job than that.

--

well actually the job is good but it's the career path that sucks.

in amerikkka, school teachers get better money than your average university prof, unless the prof stops teaching & becomes an administrator. if that's whay you want get an MBA and become a business person, i think.

but while the teacher will do perfectly well w/ a master's degree, the prof will be required to toil for years in poverty and obscurity in the pursuit of a doctorate which may or may not get him the desired position. especialy i'm talking about the humanities. the humanities are dead.

oh and college students are worse idiots to babysit, because they are older and should know better, but still behave like overgrown children, and act like twatty customers who are not being served.

,,,

i think you might be delusional

That is certainly not the case in Wales. They get paid far, far, far more and are treated by the students as being very cool. I've known lecturers to invite their classes to parties and everything. Even In Sixth Form Colleges (im going to uni in sept, im not sure if you know what sixth form is) The teachers never get treated like shit. In High School its very, very different. The kids rip shit into them at every point they can.

By the way if I do lecture it will be in 'Music Technology'

[Cardinal Rob]

I'm pretty sure that being a physics teacher is worse than being a bin man or working at an abbatoir. You really have to earn the kids' love otherwise they're just going to go around doing impressions of you (I dedicate a lot of my time at school doing so).

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

That is certainly not the case in Wales. They get paid far, far, far more and are treated by the students as being very cool. I've known lecturers to invite their classes to parties and everything. Even In Sixth Form Colleges (im going to uni in sept, im not sure if you know what sixth form is) The teachers never get treated like shit. In High School its very, very different. The kids rip shit into them at every point they can.

yeah some do no doubt; i taught college while studying and i was never treated like shit (i made sure of that). i also took my class to parties etc. however, many of them behave like children who need to be told what to do and what is going to be in the exam and never heard you give the homework and blah blah blah. shameful.

now i think being a scholar is a fine career but if you can't get in the top schools & get plenty of funding for your studies, conferences, research, etc, chances are you'll be in some sort of academic limbo (do they have adjuncts in wales?) and you'd be better off washing dishes...

in amerikka about 65% of humanities phds do not graduate for one reason or another, and those who graduate don't necessarily have the best of lives....

here in amerikkka really the job is rarely about teaching, it's about doing "research" whatever the fuck that is, witht he result that we have aberrant monstrosities published as "articles" every year. grotesque stuff.

anyway here a couple of cautionary tales...

http://www.plasticbag.org/archives/2...g_a_doctorate/

http://www.invisibleadjunct.com/archives/000006.html

http://www.swarthmore.edu/SocSci/tbu...radschool.html

of course if you want to be a scientist it's a whole different beast. but the humanities... good luck my firend...

[luxinterior]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

i thought of becoming an art teacher once...i just dont believe in art being taught in such a structured enviroment.

My high school art classes were very structured, the assignments were always straightforward and in most cases, the finished products all looked exactly alike no matter who had done them. The teacher was very opposed to abstract art of any kind, and all of our assignments had to be copies of original works of art.

In college, on the other hand, we have a lot of freedom. Our teacher is basically there to just guide us when we feel at a loss for what to do, and to demostrate techniques that are new to most people in class. We talk about art and what we like/dislike, and each person in class aways knows what everyone else in class is working on because it's almost like a group effort. You get opinions and ask for tips, and it's just a good and fun place to be.

It's all about how you would approach it, as a teacher. Most people I know were never encouraged to pursue the arts, not even as a hobby, so if school is the only way they can experience that, then I can't really criticize art classes as a whole. I can only criticize individual teachers.

[floatingslowly]

apparently, there are good teaching jobs in Asia.

I have a friend that teaches "Underground Western Music" to Koreans and he loves it. I couldn't think of a cooler job.

even Tyson Meade (of the Chainsaw Kittens) is an english teacher in Shanghai.

teaching > rock star

[SynthethicalY]

I got to agree with Lux no one in school encouraged me to do any arts. And i could not take any arts because they where electives, and I was way behind.

[the ikara cult]

Id like to go into Maths teaching. Best (and possibly only explicit) advice my dad ever gave me was from when he was a teacher: you can be nasty at first and get nicer but you cant be nice at first and get nasty.

[Washing Machine]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

apparently, there are good teaching jobs in Asia.

I have a friend that teaches "Underground Western Music" to Koreans and he loves it. I couldn't think of a cooler job.

teaching > rock star

Okay THAT is the coolest job in the world.

[macrodollar]

Originally Posted by Washing Machine

That is certainly not the case in Wales. They get paid far, far, far more and are treated by the students as being very cool. I've known lecturers to invite their classes to parties and everything.

Where did you hear this dude?
"Dr Paul Atkins, PhD in Music (Technology)"
In my final year of school I had a teacher who taught History and Politics, and who was retiring in 4 years. Those 2 subjects are what my degree is in. I *was* thinking about taking his job from under him straight out of uni! But now I'm thinking that it might after all be shit and thankless. I may just follow Washingmachine's idea of getting a doctorate just for the status, and the not working part, of course.