[jon boy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6560685.stm

yet another reason why guns should be outlawed.

[Rob Instigator]

why not outlaw sociopaths? what do you think they killed that fucker with?

[jon boy]

nojust get rid of the guns that would be best.

[Savage Clone]

I don't have any guns and I'm not terribly interested in them, but having the cops and the government being the only armed people in a country doesn't sit well with me either.

[screamingskull]

I hope Michael Moore either makes a documentary or writes a book about this, when he did the documentary for the columbine shooting he managed to (with the help of some of the victims) get Walmart to stop selling ammunition!, maybe he could get rid of guns this time, although i think guns are part america's roots and i doubt it will happen.

[Rob Instigator]

the reason weapons are not as regulated in the USA is because the foundes of thenation understood that, thorughout history, the ruling powers always disarmed a population to control them.
this is as it should be I think. the problem lies in our culture, one that worships power opver everything else. a handgun can make the weakest among us feel powerful, and that is why they are so addicting.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

The USA are not the only country where guns are legal, but i don't see the proverbial school shooting happening that often in other countries. If someone was going to commit such mass murders, there are so many ways to kill a human being without the use of conventional guns. And in any case, if a kid is so insane and wants to commit such a crime, he will find the right gun even in a country where they are illegal. The problem lies elsewhere and, as usual, is more complex than simple moral outrage.

Ive said this already in the other thread, but my standpoint is that pointing a gun at someone and pulling the trigger is not only physically but psychologically easier than using another means such as a knife/bat.

The point about finding a gun, perhaps this is true, and todays tragedy would have probably happened anyway, but out of however many killings there are by guns, how many are the type who "would have done it anyway?". The mentalists will kill anyway but im sure there are many who have killed with a gun who wouldnt have premeditated it to such a degree.

[screamingskull]

Dylan and Eric had knives as well as guns, they didn't use them though.

[screamingskull]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

i felt sorry for those two, as well as their victims.

they were victims themselves, it doesn't make what they did okay or even understandable, but i don't think they are totally to blame for what happened.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Jef Beck nearly did, though. What does that mean?

He nearly shot someone?
On the Columbine thing, if they just have knives they might kill half as many people. But thats one of those premeditated things where they would get their hands on guns anyway.

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

i called my 2 friends at virginia tech and they are fine
thank god

people, getting rid of guns will not solve problems like this
what about homemade bombs? knifes? etc.etc.etc.
we need more security at public places
more cameras
etc.etc.etc.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Drugs were heavily involved. It is something that could easily happen in England. Did you read about how easy it is to buy a gun in South London? I wouldn't be surprised at all if something like that happened in , say, Richmond or something.

Yeah i know im from South London, a lad i knew in college was arrested for walking down the street brandishing a handgun, high as a kite. and that was about 4 years ago, i know its got alot worse recently.
This is one of those drastic situations, i mean Dunblane happened, he was gonna do it anyway. The point is make it as hard as possible to get guns to people. Imagine if guns were legal here, the past 6 months would be nothing.

[SynthethicalY]

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue

i called my 2 friends at virginia tech and they are fine
thank god

That is good to hear.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

the reason weapons are not as regulated in the USA is because the foundes of thenation understood that, thorughout history, the ruling powers always disarmed a population to control them.
this is as it should be I think. the problem lies in our culture, one that worships power opver everything else. a handgun can make the weakest among us feel powerful, and that is why they are so addicting.

if guns posed any threat to the political status quo is the states they'd be outlawed in a flash.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by screamingskull

I hope Michael Moore either makes a documentary or writes a book about this, when he did the documentary for the columbine shooting he managed to (with the help of some of the victims) get Walmart to stop selling ammunition!, maybe he could get rid of guns this time, although i think guns are part america's roots and i doubt it will happen.

With all due respect screamingskull, what fucking good would that do, apart from boosting Michael Moore's bank balance and ego?

[demonrail666]

He tried to do it with Bowling For Columbine, anyway. Making a film about this situation would just be repeating what he said in that.

[max]

funky that just 2 days ago i write a topic about columbine killers getting praise on youtube, and today shit hits the fan.

damn.

[Rob Instigator]

Bowling For Columbine was GREAT movie!

[jico.]

yeah... probably they will a good one out of this shooting too !! !

YEY YEY ! thank you america for keeping the rest of the entertained.

[Rob Instigator]

hollywood is america's biggest export!