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Old 06.12.2007, 10:40 AM   #1
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http://politics.guardian.co.uk/tonyb...101076,00.html

The smiling face of death strikes again. Obviously our man is far too humble to admit that maybe he's played any part in undermining the UK. Let's see the UK press serialise your memoirs now, you cunt.
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Old 06.12.2007, 10:58 AM   #2
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I love this bit - 'But he insisted the deteriorating coverage of political reporting in particular had "sapped the country's confidence and self-belief; it undermines its assessment of itself, its institutions and above all else it reduces our capacity to take the right decisions in the right spirit for our future."

Substitute 'coverage of political reporting' with 'competetence of new labour' and see if it reads any better.

I doubt he'll be that bothered about his relationship with the UK press. The lucrative American lecture circuit beckons, don't you think?
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Old 06.12.2007, 11:36 AM   #3
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attacking the media is the next step to a totalitarian state. they already have all you brits under heavy surveillance 24/7.
you vene have to have a license to receive FREE television signals, and then you ahve trucks driving through your neighborhoods that can detect when a house is receiving television without an official registration.

enjoy the fascism.
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Old 06.12.2007, 11:43 AM   #4
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New film, taking liberties, is just released about the general loss of civil liberties in the UK. Should be essential viewing.
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Old 06.12.2007, 12:43 PM   #5
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How the fuck can he single out the Indpedendent when the front pages of the tabloids, and the Express in Particular are peddling anti-government, anti-tax scaremongering bullshit every single day?
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Old 06.12.2007, 01:28 PM   #6
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you vene have to have a license to receive FREE television signals, and then you ahve trucks driving through your neighborhoods that can detect when a house is receiving television without an official registration.

enjoy the fascism.

It's them sick people at BBC, I don't even watch BBC 1 or 2, they're the most boring channels on my TV.
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Old 06.12.2007, 01:41 PM   #7
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Let's see the UK press serialise your memoirs now, you cunt.

Bwahahaha.


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Old 06.12.2007, 04:51 PM   #8
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Newsnight is tearing this up as we speak. I'm sure Blair forgot to tell us all about how he and Rupert Murdoch are best friends forever.
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Old 06.12.2007, 05:51 PM   #9
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It's them sick people at BBC, I don't even watch BBC 1 or 2, they're the most boring channels on my TV.

TV in general is boring, though I actually watch the BBC most often. Don't like how it's been slightly dumbed down though.
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Old 06.12.2007, 05:53 PM   #10
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i blame him too..

who are we talking about now?
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Old 06.13.2007, 05:54 AM   #11
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How the fuck can he single out the Indpedendent when the front pages of the tabloids, and the Express in Particular are peddling anti-government, anti-tax scaremongering bullshit every single day?

I know the Independent has traditionally been a moderate Labour paper. Its a very strange attack. I wonder what he considers a shining example of the British news coverage? The Sun? The Daily Mail?

To Hell with him the only papers i'll read is The Independent and The Guardian.
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Old 06.13.2007, 07:32 AM   #12
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I know the Independent has traditionally been a moderate Labour paper. Its a very strange attack. I wonder what he considers a shining example of the British news coverage? The Sun? The Daily Mail?

To Hell with him the only papers i'll read is The Independent and The Guardian.

I just bought the Independent today and the front page is a defiant answer to his attack. You could argue it proves his point but they claim it's because they opposed Iraq that he singled them out.
It's so rediculous how he tries to score tabloid headlines and then attacks the sensible papers. I can't wait for him to leave, only problem is that Brown is a discipline of Adam Smith
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Old 06.13.2007, 08:31 AM   #13
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the independent is as idiotic as any tabloid, their headlines are just as sensationalist. at least the sun is fucking hilarious.

anyway, i agree with tony blair on this point, the newspapers in this country are appaling, whether it's the guardian, the telegraph, the mail, the times or the mirror and the sun. this is not to say that the government are any good, just that it's high time that the media got taken down a peg or two, they weald far to much power, lack any shred of integrity, will print anything if they think they'll sell more, and are most journalists are utter morons.
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Old 06.13.2007, 08:36 AM   #14
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T&B im sorry but The Guardian and The Independant are excellent papers. If he attacked The Mail, The Express, The Star I would be wholly in agreement with him. I fail to see how the Independent's headlines are sensationalist. What world newspaper do you suggest is a good example of good journalism?
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Old 06.13.2007, 11:27 AM   #15
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I too have trouble with the apparent fact that the person in charge of this country honestly believes that The Independent is journalistically worse (worthier of scorn) than the Sun or the Mail or the Express.

Granted, I don't read the Indie as regularly as I used to, so I can't unequivocally defend it, but I do have a rather unfortunate level of access to the tabloids (people leave them everywhere), and it is genuinely quite shocking to me to hear that the Prime Minister believes the former is more damaging to the "spirit of the nation" than the execrable latter. No matter how far the Independent may have fallen in recent years, I find it very hard it believe that it is genuinely journalistically worse than The Sun, The Mail, The Express, The Mirror, etc.

But perhaps Tony doesn't read The Sun.
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I fail to see how the Independent's headlines are sensationalist.


only a teenager or a blind man could fail to see the sensaitionalism in the independent's headlines

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What world newspaper do you suggest is a good example of good journalism?

the FT or the economist are the only things i think are worth looking at, not that i look at then though
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only a teenager or a blind man could fail to see the sensaitionalism in the independent's headlines

All headlines could be described as sensationalist. Headlines are designed to grap attention. I dont think the headlines are particularly sensational. Certainly the layout is colourful and the wording of headlines is eye-catching but its not the same as what the tabloids and middle markets do. And aside from the headlines the paper has a number of talented writers. Anyway I read the Guardian, its Arts coverage is much better.
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Old 06.13.2007, 01:18 PM   #18
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Looking at the newspapers, the Independent's brilliant for setting the media trends of adding views to news in many ways. Kel did a great job in to-day's edition in responding to Blair. The Independent is suited for readers from many walks of life who all share the ability to make their own minds up on matters over others' views as well as the sacred facts. The headlines are designed to be provokative, yes, but not sensationalism. Plus we can all laugh as the pretence of Tracey Emin every Friday.

The Guardian's my second favourite read. A centre-left paper, they don't tend to cover as much as the Indy but have a great balance.

The Telegraph is another I can stand to read. Traditionally Tory but well balanced in my opinion. The letters section is a good laugh.

The Times. I've never been able to read an entire article. They seem to inject everything that is dull into every last word they publish.

The Sun or one of those (can't make out which is which) surprised me when I found out the editor was a woman. Still not very funny and very bad with news. Bigoted too.

Once one first heard the phrase the Daily Sport they become perpetually misanthropic.


Tony Blair wouldn't have made that speech if the Independent was unbiased about Iraq, nor would he if he wasn't about to step down.
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Looking at the newspapers, the Independent's brilliant for setting the media trends of adding views to news in many ways. Kel did a great job in to-day's edition in responding to Blair. The Independent is suited for readers from many walks of life who all share the ability to make their own minds up on matters over others' views as well as the sacred facts. The headlines are designed to be provokative, yes, but not sensationalism. Plus we can all laugh as the pretence of Tracey Emin every Friday.

The Guardian's my second favourite read. A centre-left paper, they don't tend to cover as much as the Indy but have a great balance.

The Telegraph is another I can stand to read. Traditionally Tory but well balanced in my opinion. The letters section is a good laugh.

The Times. I've never been able to read an entire article. They seem to inject everything that is dull into every last word they publish.

The Sun or one of those (can't make out which is which) surprised me when I found out the editor was a woman. Still not very funny and very bad with news. Bigoted too.

Once one first heard the phrase the Daily Sport they become perpetually misanthropic.


Tony Blair wouldn't have made that speech if the Independent was unbiased about Iraq, nor would he if he wasn't about to step down.

That is accurate I would say, except I like The Guardian just a little bit more.
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the FT or the economist are the only things i think are worth looking at, not that i look at then though

I think the economist is far more opinionated that any of the broadsheets, I can't read it for long before I become disgusted by its ideology.
Looks like we have ourselves a good old fashioned left vs right war.
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