Allen Ginsberg, Jerking Off

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 05.17.2006, 02:28 PM

Jerking Off is a poem by Ginsberg for those that don't know. Any way I picked up a couple of his books yesterday at the library. I braught one to school today and was reading it through the course of the day. Theres some good material in there, its called Death and Fame, but a lot of it seems less poetic, if that could even apply to him. A lot of political stuff as well. Before this I never read that much, mostly just Howl so I dont know what its completely like.

Anyone, back to the subject at hand. I was reading a poem during english and my friend walked by and read the title: Jerking Off in bold large type face on top of the page, so he snatched it and read it. His expression was quite humorous, considering he had never even heard of Ginsberg before. But I read it after and its prob. one of the most 'obscene' (if I had to label it) poems I've read before. All i could think about was an old guy witha beard giving head. Oh well, theres a story for you all. Ill try and find the poem online.

Ich bin gael · 05.17.2006, 02:35 PM

Hmm.. never read it. I respect Howl for what it is/was, but I didn't really enjoy it... I suppose I had to have been alive at that time.. or at least hear him read it.

A lot of that "beat" stuff doesn't really do it for me, which sucks because I ADORE it in theory...

!@#$%! · 05.17.2006, 02:38 PM

one of the things i like the most about ginsberg was how an unabashedly horny goat he was.

haven't read that. i love kaddish, sunflower sutra, howl, a supermarket in california, and a number of other poems-- his songs are funny but not that great (art vs propaganda again-- oh no!). anyway i'll check it ouf it if i can.

oh i have some tracks of ginsberg reading howl & other poems. i could be persuaded to fish them out of my big offline-machine on a usb drive, move them to the laptop, and shoot them up into the sky for people to drink. but i am too scatterbrained to remember.

John Violence · 05.17.2006, 02:51 PM

Supermarket in California was on my English final today.

Kim C Not G · 05.17.2006, 02:56 PM

I borrowed a book of his entire collection in school library hearing it from Patti Smith and Sonic Youth not to long ago. I don't remember that one specifically but you're right some of his poems are very graphic. Anyway, a mother of a friend was actually explaining to me that he can be considered a beat poet and how obvious you can tell in "Howl". There is a poem of his called something like Asthyles (not even close to spelling or probably not even to the name) that was probably one of my favorites of his.

!@#$%! · 05.17.2006, 03:56 PM

america! i've given you all and now i'm nothing!! how could i have forgotten!!
/me blows kisses.

thanks for that.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 05.17.2006, 04:01 PM

fuck you and your A-bomb

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 05.17.2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturnine

see my sig

(it's actually go fuck yrself with yr atom bomb)
sy stole the "yr" thing from him

nice

nomadicfollower · 05.17.2006, 04:22 PM

I like him, but I bought his entire collection of poetry and it was way too much.

krastian · 05.17.2006, 05:23 PM

Another misleading thread name by the Sheriff

Yeah this is the way to go. I like picking it up and reading a few when I feel the need.

golden child · 05.17.2006, 06:04 PM

i havent read much by him either, defiantly interested in more.

ive heard some of those recordings you speak of !@#$!, they are on the bob dylan documentry. cornershop also sampled some for one of their songs.

if you feel the urge to upload them, i would download them.

Daycare Nation · 05.17.2006, 06:14 PM

I'm a big Ginsberg fan--I have his CD "the lion for real" as well as the recording "howl and other poems" on cassette, all his poems except his final works, and the cd box set "holly soul, jelly roll." I saw him read in Austin about a year before he died. I had a dream that he came to visit me, and then I heard he was dead several days later.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 05.17.2006, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian

Another misleading thread name by the Sheriff

Yeah this is the way to go. I like picking it up and reading a few when I feel the need.

they had this also at the library. I just didnt want to carry it home with the other books. 1000+ pages.

!@#$%! · 05.18.2006, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden child

i havent read much by him either, defiantly interested in more.

ive heard some of those recordings you speak of !@#$!, they are on the bob dylan documentry. cornershop also sampled some for one of their songs.

if you feel the urge to upload them, i would download them.

i didn't run the big computer this morning-- i have to turn on a generator to run it, you see. maybe this weekend as i have to edit some stuff. i appreciate the reminder, yes. will put them up for you-- you still @ yahoo group?

golden child · 05.18.2006, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i didn't run the big computer this morning-- i have to turn on a generator to run it, you see. maybe this weekend as i have to edit some stuff. i appreciate the reminder, yes. will put them up for you-- you still @ yahoo group?

nope, i got chisled out back when the group got to maximum capacity.

05.17.2006, 02:28 PM	#1
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	Jerking Off is a poem by Ginsberg for those that don't know. Any way I picked up a couple of his books yesterday at the library. I braught one to school today and was reading it through the course of the day. Theres some good material in there, its called Death and Fame, but a lot of it seems less poetic, if that could even apply to him. A lot of political stuff as well. Before this I never read that much, mostly just Howl so I dont know what its completely like. Anyone, back to the subject at hand. I was reading a poem during english and my friend walked by and read the title: Jerking Off in bold large type face on top of the page, so he snatched it and read it. His expression was quite humorous, considering he had never even heard of Ginsberg before. But I read it after and its prob. one of the most 'obscene' (if I had to label it) poems I've read before. All i could think about was an old guy witha beard giving head. Oh well, theres a story for you all. Ill try and find the poem online. __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 02:35 PM	#2
Ich bin gael little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: User formerly known as Sonic Overload Posts: 34	Hmm.. never read it. I respect Howl for what it is/was, but I didn't really enjoy it... I suppose I had to have been alive at that time.. or at least hear him read it. A lot of that "beat" stuff doesn't really do it for me, which sucks because I ADORE it in theory...
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 02:38 PM	#3
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	one of the things i like the most about ginsberg was how an unabashedly horny goat he was. haven't read that. i love kaddish, sunflower sutra, howl, a supermarket in california, and a number of other poems-- his songs are funny but not that great (art vs propaganda again-- oh no!). anyway i'll check it ouf it if i can. oh i have some tracks of ginsberg reading howl & other poems. i could be persuaded to fish them out of my big offline-machine on a usb drive, move them to the laptop, and shoot them up into the sky for people to drink. but i am too scatterbrained to remember.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 02:51 PM	#4
John Violence the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 898	Supermarket in California was on my English final today.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 02:56 PM	#5
Kim C Not G bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 109	I borrowed a book of his entire collection in school library hearing it from Patti Smith and Sonic Youth not to long ago. I don't remember that one specifically but you're right some of his poems are very graphic. Anyway, a mother of a friend was actually explaining to me that he can be considered a beat poet and how obvious you can tell in "Howl". There is a poem of his called something like Asthyles (not even close to spelling or probably not even to the name) that was probably one of my favorites of his.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 03:56 PM	#6
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	america! i've given you all and now i'm nothing!! how could i have forgotten!! /me blows kisses. thanks for that.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 04:01 PM	#7
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	fuck you and your A-bomb __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 04:22 PM	#9
nomadicfollower invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North America Posts: 2,672	I like him, but I bought his entire collection of poetry and it was way too much.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 05:23 PM	#10
krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	Another misleading thread name by the Sheriff Yeah this is the way to go. I like picking it up and reading a few when I feel the need. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 06:04 PM	#11
golden child expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,672	i havent read much by him either, defiantly interested in more. ive heard some of those recordings you speak of !@#$!, they are on the bob dylan documentry. cornershop also sampled some for one of their songs. if you feel the urge to upload them, i would download them. __________________ blind
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

05.17.2006, 06:14 PM	#12
Daycare Nation expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,904	I'm a big Ginsberg fan--I have his CD "the lion for real" as well as the recording "howl and other poems" on cassette, all his poems except his final works, and the cd box set "holly soul, jelly roll." I saw him read in Austin about a year before he died. I had a dream that he came to visit me, and then I heard he was dead several days later. __________________ That dragon ain't the love sweet love.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|