[Moshe]

http://www.mattin.org/

 

[verme (prevaricator)]

thanks.

[ni'k]

http://philosophersansoeuvre.blogspot.com/ and a response to it here.

[Glice]

Thanks [insert diatribe].

[demonrail666]

when I grow up I want to be a speculative realist.

[Rob Instigator]

thanks a lot. gonna check it out as soon as it prints,.

[ni'k]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

when I grow up I want to be a speculative realist.

and battling roaming gangs of continentalists in street debates

[pbradley]

Despite reservations, I really have been interested in Ray Brassier's criticism. Read some of "Genre Is Obsolete" for example. Too poor to buy books, though.

[ni'k]

man, i've being reading that whole blog scene for a long time and i have no clue were to start so i can properly understand were they are coming from. i've bought load of books over the years but havent really tackled any of them properly. i start reading critique of pure reason and then someone on the blogs dismisses kant in one sentence,so i feel i should be reading marx until i read something and then think i need to look at hegel. it's so complicated.

i think the first thing i need to do is pick up some basics of the language, like dialectical, negation, machines,flows etc. then i need some sort of reading list - something that can give me a good overview of the major thinkers and show me which chapters of theirs to avoid and which to concentrate on.

i've read some of capitalism and schizophrenia, some badiou, zizek and sartre but not enough to understand them fully.

anyway, next year i'm doing an access course in order to get into uni the year after so i can study philosophy. before then i want to use my free time wisely and start reading up on everything.

pbradley - you were saying that your too poor to buy books - here is a pdf of ray brassier's nihil unbound http://www.scribd.com/doc/19408141/R...and-Extinction

[Glice]

Anyone dismissing Kant in a sentence is an idiot. There's a categorical imperative for you.

ni'k - Bertrand Russel's 'a history of Western philosophy' is a pretty good primer on philosophy up to the 20th-century. I also think you can get away with not reading the source texts - it's really not worth getting bogged down with the whole of Hegel's phenomenology of spirit for months when a short encyclopaedia article should do the same job. The intimate details of Marx aren't really that necessary either.

There's an argument that says that very few people understand any given philosopher 'fully'. I have to say I'm largely sympathetic to this - except for being a very high-level academic, being able to posit a thinker in a continuum or general structure is sufficient. I think if everyone who said they'd read, say, Critique of Judgement had absorbed every single point in there then you'd get a lot fewer people saying they'd read it. Just getting a broad idea of what they're saying is fine, although I'll put the caveat that one of the worst things anyone can do is to dismiss any given philosopher outright (with the exception of the analytics, who can fuck the fuck off as far as I'm concerned).

[Toilet & Bowels]

The distribution of this book is going to be done by trading:

If you are an artist, musician, writer or engage in any creative activity, we would very much appreciate that you send a sample of your work as a form of exchange for the book. Otherwise you can write a critical response to the book and send it to Arteleku.

If you are a distributor or a label or a publisher and you want to get copies of the book for distribution, you can send single copies of different books, zines or records in exchange and Arteleku will send you copies of the book in return.


nice idea

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by ni'k

pbradley - you were saying that your too poor to buy books - here is a pdf of ray brassier's nihil unbound http://www.scribd.com/doc/19408141/R...and-Extinction

Awesome, thanks.

[less_cunning]

excellent.