What is the ideal starter CD for a SY newbie?

_slavo_ · 06.30.2006, 04:59 AM

being hyperactive after having drunk too much gingko green tea, I start another thread.

what Sonic Youth CD would you recommend as a starter for SY newbie? I would say Murray Street would be ideal - it's accessible and has some great tunes on it while not turning back on experimental soundscapes and feedback paranoia at times (Karen Revisited). Dirty would do as well.

what do you think?

sonicl · 06.30.2006, 05:18 AM

It depends whether they already like non-mainstream music or not.

If it's someone who doesn't even have, say Nirvana and Pearl Jam as points of reference, I think Rather Ripped would be a pretty good place to start, as there is very little about it that is threatening to the novice.

If the person already has some grounding, then, I agree, Murray Street would be a good one.

fishmonkey · 06.30.2006, 06:35 AM

yeah Murray Street first.....then maybe a bit of Nurse......after that a little.........mmmmm.........Dirty or Goo......then when you've got em hooked.....BANG! Washing Machine with a helping of Sister... if they are still interested and their brains are still intact you can EVOL'em up and NYCG+F their asses...

but then there just comes a time when you just have to let em make their own mistakes and let em take responsiblity for themselves..
..... by this time if you've done your job they will be ordering SYR's online.

Onani Nic · 06.30.2006, 07:59 AM

i dunno, maybe Sister or Goo.

stvpttrsn · 06.30.2006, 08:23 AM

...imho rather ripped...

Trasher02 · 06.30.2006, 08:36 AM

Probably Goo, Dirty, or Daydream Nation... Depends on what the guy likes.

gmku · 06.30.2006, 08:39 AM

It was Goo that hooked me on SY back when it first came out. I think it's got a lot of hooks that would appeal to people used to more pop kinds of sounds, but it also has a lot of the SY trademark noise and sound-scape stuff. From there, I'd recommend Daydream Nation.

Trasher02 · 06.30.2006, 09:03 AM

Dirty is for people who still like poppy stuff
Goo is for alternative people
DDN is for people who have experience with music and for people who like punk

making the drama scene · 06.30.2006, 09:09 AM

a friend of mine introduced sy to me by goo and ddn
thats how i came to that music
so from a very subjective point of view i'd say those two are a good start

SubSonicPumpAction · 06.30.2006, 09:12 AM

I started with CIS but DDN is the best.

Fox · 06.30.2006, 09:16 AM

I started with NYC G&F, maybe the worst CD to start

I'd say EVOL

paco · 06.30.2006, 09:18 AM

Dirty is clearly the place to start, as it's their most mainstream. Anything pre-Goo is a terrible idea, because the production is so bad that those records just sound horribly dated.

For me, I really dug "Kool Thing" when it was a single and all over "120 Minutes," but I didn't buy any SY until Dirty came out (got it on cassette, no less -- probably one of the last tapes I bought before switching to CDs). But I have a hard time listening to anything pre-Goo. It just sounds old and moldy to me.

luxinterior · 06.30.2006, 09:22 AM

Honestly, either Daydream Nation or Murray Street. Daydream Nation was my first Sonic Youth record, but I got into it around the time of Murray Street and that tour (which I managed to catch them on). If Murray Street had sucked, I might not have even bothered to go to that concert, which is what really contributed to me becoming a big fan and buying even more of their albums. I heard Murray Street even before Goo, Dirty, Sister, EVOL, or any of that stuff. And really, I don't think any of the other albums could've gotten me hooked as fast as Daydream Nation and Murray Street did.

Then again, I have recommended Bad Moon Rising to people who I thought would like that sort of thing. It is one of my favorites. Right now it probably is my favorite of theirs, but that can change. I just think it's super.

marleypumpkin · 06.30.2006, 09:26 AM

"Dirty" Deluxe Edition LP was the starting point for me.

Inhuman · 06.30.2006, 10:23 AM

I would say Dirty and then Daydream Nation.

sonic sphere · 06.30.2006, 10:25 AM

confusion is sex! their best album

Pax Americana · 06.30.2006, 11:41 AM

I heard Dirty first, but it was Daydream Nation that got me into them.

when · 06.30.2006, 09:31 PM

washing machine was a fine starting point for me. i mean, the long jams completely blew my mind, but not in any remotely discouraging way. i got into the band by way of nirvana.

acousticrock87 · 06.30.2006, 09:44 PM

My first one was Dirty, and I didn't like it that much. Then I gave them a second chance and got EJSTNS and Daydream Nation and loved them. Ultimately, I'd say EJS was what got me into them, and if I didn't know better that's what I'd recommend. But apparently I have bad taste.

lol · 06.30.2006, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by when

i got into the band by way of nirvana.

lolol

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_slavo_ invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ðîññèÿ Posts: 10,912	being hyperactive after having drunk too much gingko green tea, I start another thread. what Sonic Youth CD would you recommend as a starter for SY newbie? I would say Murray Street would be ideal - it's accessible and has some great tunes on it while not turning back on experimental soundscapes and feedback paranoia at times (Karen Revisited). Dirty would do as well. what do you think? __________________ you're the boy that can enjoy invisibility
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sonicl invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,527	It depends whether they already like non-mainstream music or not. If it's someone who doesn't even have, say Nirvana and Pearl Jam as points of reference, I think Rather Ripped would be a pretty good place to start, as there is very little about it that is threatening to the novice. If the person already has some grounding, then, I agree, Murray Street would be a good one.
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06.30.2006, 06:35 AM	#3
fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	yeah Murray Street first.....then maybe a bit of Nurse......after that a little.........mmmmm.........Dirty or Goo......then when you've got em hooked.....BANG! Washing Machine with a helping of Sister... if they are still interested and their brains are still intact you can EVOL'em up and NYCG+F their asses... but then there just comes a time when you just have to let em make their own mistakes and let em take responsiblity for themselves.. ..... by this time if you've done your job they will be ordering SYR's online. __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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Onani Nic the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 930	i dunno, maybe Sister or Goo. __________________ I don't give a fuck thats the problem. I see a motherfuckin cop i don't dodge them.
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stvpttrsn empty page Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21	...imho rather ripped...
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Trasher02 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,356	Probably Goo, Dirty, or Daydream Nation... Depends on what the guy likes. __________________ 666
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gmku invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oxford, England Posts: 15,225	It was Goo that hooked me on SY back when it first came out. I think it's got a lot of hooks that would appeal to people used to more pop kinds of sounds, but it also has a lot of the SY trademark noise and sound-scape stuff. From there, I'd recommend Daydream Nation.
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Trasher02 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,356	Dirty is for people who still like poppy stuff Goo is for alternative people DDN is for people who have experience with music and for people who like punk __________________ 666
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making the drama scene bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Austria Posts: 135	a friend of mine introduced sy to me by goo and ddn thats how i came to that music so from a very subjective point of view i'd say those two are a good start
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SubSonicPumpAction little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tarzana Posts: 68	I started with CIS but DDN is the best.
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Fox the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 599	I started with NYC G&F, maybe the worst CD to start I'd say EVOL __________________ #green_light_chat Myspace => Fox Noisejob
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06.30.2006, 09:18 AM	#12
paco empty page Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 10	Dirty is clearly the place to start, as it's their most mainstream. Anything pre-Goo is a terrible idea, because the production is so bad that those records just sound horribly dated. For me, I really dug "Kool Thing" when it was a single and all over "120 Minutes," but I didn't buy any SY until Dirty came out (got it on cassette, no less -- probably one of the last tapes I bought before switching to CDs). But I have a hard time listening to anything pre-Goo. It just sounds old and moldy to me.
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luxinterior invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri, land of the free and home of the brave Posts: 2,351	Honestly, either Daydream Nation or Murray Street. Daydream Nation was my first Sonic Youth record, but I got into it around the time of Murray Street and that tour (which I managed to catch them on). If Murray Street had sucked, I might not have even bothered to go to that concert, which is what really contributed to me becoming a big fan and buying even more of their albums. I heard Murray Street even before Goo, Dirty, Sister, EVOL, or any of that stuff. And really, I don't think any of the other albums could've gotten me hooked as fast as Daydream Nation and Murray Street did. Then again, I have recommended Bad Moon Rising to people who I thought would like that sort of thing. It is one of my favorites. Right now it probably is my favorite of theirs, but that can change. I just think it's super. __________________ "I sweat like a fucking nun on Sunday...I don't even know what that means." - Sebastian Bach
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marleypumpkin invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 3,193	"Dirty" Deluxe Edition LP was the starting point for me. __________________ "It takes 2 fingers to make the peace sign. Just like it takes 2 people to make love. When you go like this , you're jerking off." -George Carlin
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Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	I would say Dirty and then Daydream Nation. __________________ Inhuman no longer dwells on here. http://about.me/robinbastien
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sonic sphere invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 4,446	confusion is sex! their best album
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Pax Americana expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,187	I heard Dirty first, but it was Daydream Nation that got me into them.
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when bad moon rising Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: somerville, ma Posts: 109	washing machine was a fine starting point for me. i mean, the long jams completely blew my mind, but not in any remotely discouraging way. i got into the band by way of nirvana.
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acousticrock87 invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,515	My first one was Dirty, and I didn't like it that much. Then I gave them a second chance and got EJSTNS and Daydream Nation and loved them. Ultimately, I'd say EJS was what got me into them, and if I didn't know better that's what I'd recommend. But apparently I have bad taste.
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