The Eternal - 6 Months Later

Skuj · 12.03.2009, 08:38 PM

How has your opinion of this release evolved in that time frame then?

jennthebenn · 12.03.2009, 08:41 PM

It remains fantastic. "Massage the History" is still breathtaking. "What We
Know" still headbutts concrete into powder. "Leaky Lifeboat" still evokes the
sun gods. And "Thunderclap" is still saved by the "yeah yeah yeah"s and the "whoa
oh oh"s.

I find that seeing them a few times on the tour has changed what I feel about certain songs; I really appreciate the power of "No Way"--I actually think it sounds better on record, though. "Calming the Snake" live, conversely, is superior to the album version--without those superfluous echoes on her vocals, Kim is free to shred a siren song. It seems only a partially realized track in retrospect.

There is nothing on The Eternal that plumbs the depths of "Sleepin' Around."

Holds up better than any SY record this century outside of Sonic Nurse.

noisereductions · 12.03.2009, 09:31 PM

it's still incredible. Seriously. Probably my favorite SY album since MURRAY STREET.

Chris Lawrence · 12.03.2009, 09:42 PM

I still love it. It sounds like they're having a lot of fun, which translates into an overall high-energy listening experience. Hell, I can even get into 'Thunderclap' now, and I feel bad it's disappeared from set lists. It might be a little overshadowed by the superior material it accompanies, but it's still fun, and the interlude has some killer shred tones...

SuperCreep · 12.03.2009, 10:10 PM

i went from really liking the first month it came out, then held off listening to it for a while (i think i might have ran through it fifty times in that first month), and now i'm back to really liking it again. the whole album just sounds very rejuvenated and it's great to see how enthusiastic they are playing it live. "sacred trickster"/"massage the history" has to be one of their best opening/closing combos ever, lee's songs are both incredibly solid, mark's basslines are groovalicious, kim's vocals haven't sounded this good on record in a while (and live on "calming the snake"...wowee!), thurston dun damn good, especially on "leaky lifeboat" (those harmonics!) and "antenna" (still my favorite song on the album), steve is beastin' it as always, etc etc. so many new things to love about this one with each listen.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 12.03.2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperCreep

i went from really liking the first month it came out, then held off listening to it for a while (i think i might have ran through it fifty times in that first month), and now i'm back to really liking it again. the whole album just sounds very rejuvenated and it's great to see how enthusiastic they are playing it live. "sacred trickster"/"massage the history" has to be one of their best opening/closing combos ever, lee's songs are both incredibly solid, mark's basslines are groovalicious, kim's vocals haven't sounded this good on record in a while (and live on "calming the snake"...wowee!), thurston dun damn good, especially on "leaky lifeboat" (those harmonics!) and "antenna" (still my favorite song on the album), steve is beastin' it as always, etc etc. so many new things to love about this one with each listen.

Me too.

Best album that I've heard this year.

wellcharge · 12.03.2009, 10:55 PM

i think it's an excellent album, my mind doesn't usually change about records very often though

kaitlynmazur · 12.03.2009, 11:12 PM

I still think its a great album, I always will.

Magic Wheel Memory · 12.03.2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jennthebenn

I really appreciate the power of "No Way"--I actually think it sounds better on record, though. .

I feel exactly the opposite. So much better live!

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Originally Posted by jennthebenn

"Calming the Snake" live, conversely, is superior to the album version--without those superfluous echoes on her vocals, Kim is free to shred a siren song. It seems only a partially realized track in retrospect.

I'm not sure if it's because of the vocals, but I agree. So much better live!

Maybe the fact that these two tracks have been at the beginnings of the set lists give them some extra live "oopmh."

Rob Instigator · 12.04.2009, 10:12 AM

I loved it initially, then I grew to appreciate it even more as I heard it more and more. Now it is my fave since sonic nurse.

lee rules all.

Satan · 12.04.2009, 10:17 AM

it's alright

Concrete Abutments · 12.04.2009, 10:25 AM

There are some good tracks but this one never spent as much time in my CD player as any of the others. I've listened to it the least amount of times and never felt myself needing to go back to it so much. It's the first album I can safely accuse them of treading water on. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

chicka · 12.04.2009, 01:23 PM

Still love it. What's amazing is how it sounds live. Usually with a live performance the music loose it's edge it's raw sound not this one. It's a tribute to the band that they can play it spot on and not get sloppy like other bands (ie: Rolling Stones)

PAULYBEE2656 · 12.04.2009, 02:53 PM

i initially thought of it as a great sy record.... i then thought of it as almost a perfect sy record..i now believe it to be in their top 3 releases of all time and the album of the year...nuff said!

mil_pl · 12.04.2009, 03:35 PM

I like it, but yesterday I was listening to some previous albums like nurse / dirty / ddn. and I think the eternal deserves four points out of six. still quite enjoyable after six months. leaky lifeboat - the best!

mysonichaircut · 12.04.2009, 03:58 PM

3 songs are quite ok, all in all its boring.

ni'k · 12.04.2009, 04:03 PM

dear sy.

im sorry for being such a dick about the eternal before.

i wrote the words anti-orgasm on a page of random lyrics/crap months before i found out you had the same idea, so i cant use it, cos i waited too long. but anyway. you did a great job. anti orgasm is exactly the direction i wanted you to go in. away from that rather ripped stuff. malibu gas station is cool. but your just reusing stock pile sonic riffs and bits, this is what i found lame. not that anything i say should matter. i wish you would get weirder and do something experimental, nothing you've done has been actually experimental since bad moon rising. i mean its called experimental by people but it isnt actually doing any experiments. i wish you didnt put the punk and the rock back into no wave. i wish i had your money and equipment.

wellcharge · 12.04.2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

lee rules all.

absolutely

Skuj · 12.04.2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ni'k

dear sy.

i wish you would get weirder and do something experimental, nothing you've done has been actually experimental since bad moon rising.

What about all of those SYR releases?

Or NYCGF.....oh Christ what have I started?

But yeah.....in a way, I agree with you.....although I really do love Eternal....it creates a mood, is so well paced.....strong songwriting all round.

But I'm always wishing that "SYR" stuff and "normal" stuff can go on the same cd.

atsonicpark · 12.04.2009, 07:07 PM

Haven't listened to it in a few months. Pretty cool album though.

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jennthebenn expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 2,261	It remains fantastic. "Massage the History" is still breathtaking. "What We Know" still headbutts concrete into powder. "Leaky Lifeboat" still evokes the sun gods. And "Thunderclap" is still saved by the "yeah yeah yeah"s and the "whoa oh oh"s. I find that seeing them a few times on the tour has changed what I feel about certain songs; I really appreciate the power of "No Way"--I actually think it sounds better on record, though. "Calming the Snake" live, conversely, is superior to the album version--without those superfluous echoes on her vocals, Kim is free to shred a siren song. It seems only a partially realized track in retrospect. There is nothing on The Eternal that plumbs the depths of "Sleepin' Around." Holds up better than any SY record this century outside of Sonic Nurse. __________________ http://jennthebenn.tumblr.com/
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12.03.2009, 09:31 PM	#3
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	it's still incredible. Seriously. Probably my favorite SY album since MURRAY STREET. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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12.03.2009, 09:42 PM	#4
Chris Lawrence Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: southwest canada Posts: 1,892	I still love it. It sounds like they're having a lot of fun, which translates into an overall high-energy listening experience. Hell, I can even get into 'Thunderclap' now, and I feel bad it's disappeared from set lists. It might be a little overshadowed by the superior material it accompanies, but it's still fun, and the interlude has some killer shred tones... __________________ http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang // original folk blues ... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .i'm the boy that can enjoy invisibility. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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12.03.2009, 10:10 PM	#5
SuperCreep expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: brooklyn Posts: 2,281	i went from really liking the first month it came out, then held off listening to it for a while (i think i might have ran through it fifty times in that first month), and now i'm back to really liking it again. the whole album just sounds very rejuvenated and it's great to see how enthusiastic they are playing it live. "sacred trickster"/"massage the history" has to be one of their best opening/closing combos ever, lee's songs are both incredibly solid, mark's basslines are groovalicious, kim's vocals haven't sounded this good on record in a while (and live on "calming the snake"...wowee!), thurston dun damn good, especially on "leaky lifeboat" (those harmonics!) and "antenna" (still my favorite song on the album), steve is beastin' it as always, etc etc. so many new things to love about this one with each listen. __________________
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wellcharge expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: cold and boring kanada Posts: 1,297	i think it's an excellent album, my mind doesn't usually change about records very often though
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	I loved it initially, then I grew to appreciate it even more as I heard it more and more. Now it is my fave since sonic nurse. lee rules all. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.04.2009, 10:25 AM	#12
Concrete Abutments bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 208	There are some good tracks but this one never spent as much time in my CD player as any of the others. I've listened to it the least amount of times and never felt myself needing to go back to it so much. It's the first album I can safely accuse them of treading water on. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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12.04.2009, 01:23 PM	#13
chicka expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: wormtown MA Posts: 1,549	Still love it. What's amazing is how it sounds live. Usually with a live performance the music loose it's edge it's raw sound not this one. It's a tribute to the band that they can play it spot on and not get sloppy like other bands (ie: Rolling Stones) __________________ some men just want to watch the world burn
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PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	i initially thought of it as a great sy record.... i then thought of it as almost a perfect sy record..i now believe it to be in their top 3 releases of all time and the album of the year...nuff said! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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12.04.2009, 03:35 PM	#15
mil_pl expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Posts: 2,467	I like it, but yesterday I was listening to some previous albums like nurse / dirty / ddn. and I think the eternal deserves four points out of six. still quite enjoyable after six months. leaky lifeboat - the best! __________________
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12.04.2009, 03:58 PM	#16
mysonichaircut children of satan Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 309	3 songs are quite ok, all in all its boring.
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12.04.2009, 04:03 PM	#17
ni'k invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,360	dear sy. im sorry for being such a dick about the eternal before. i wrote the words anti-orgasm on a page of random lyrics/crap months before i found out you had the same idea, so i cant use it, cos i waited too long. but anyway. you did a great job. anti orgasm is exactly the direction i wanted you to go in. away from that rather ripped stuff. malibu gas station is cool. but your just reusing stock pile sonic riffs and bits, this is what i found lame. not that anything i say should matter. i wish you would get weirder and do something experimental, nothing you've done has been actually experimental since bad moon rising. i mean its called experimental by people but it isnt actually doing any experiments. i wish you didnt put the punk and the rock back into no wave. i wish i had your money and equipment.
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atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Haven't listened to it in a few months. Pretty cool album though. __________________
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