[jon boy]

if it has indeed broken? it seems there are more people around playing noise now than ever. noise being however you interpet it but i am mainly talking wolf eyes type noise.

[automatic bzooty]

when the killers cover prurient

[via motley crue and "anarchy"]

[Genteel Death]

What a fucking stupid question.

[demonrail666]

I always thought Punk broke when the Sex Pistols got to number one.

[jon boy]

 

[looking glass spectacle]

never should have let that douchebag borrow my car... wait did i say that out loud?

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by jon boy

if it has indeed broken? it seems there are more people around playing noise now than ever. noise being however you interpet it but i am mainly talking wolf eyes type noise.

LOL. I seem to recall 76-77 being the big punk breakthrough years, and I think the big Noise breakthrough was 79-80. But that's just my perspective/opinion/experience.

PS I'm 47.

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by jon boy

 

America was 15yrs late it seems, and they called it "grunge".

[pbradley]

Haven't really seen straight noise on the television so I think we can say it hasn't.

And hopefully it never will.

[jon boy]

obviously punk didnt 'break in 91', just making a reference to the film.

[ann ashtray]

Wolf Eyes are to Throbbing Gristle what Nirvana was to Black Flag.

I always thought "The Year Punk Broke" was just as much annoying as it was clever. I mean, who makes these judgment calls? Thurston Moore and Kat Bejelland?

Of course I'm not being completely serious.

[chrome noise tape]

noise still didn't broke ( in the way of wolf eyes type )...or will broke when lady gaga cover merzbow.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by ann ashtray

I always thought "The Year Punk Broke" was just as much annoying as it was clever. I mean, who makes these judgment calls? Thurston Moore and Kat Bejelland?.

the idea is one of throoston, who claims that in the early 90s the punk-ish "outside" music broke through the mainstream-- the phrase is actually said by kim in the movie-- that idea repeats itself when throoston wrote his neu york times piece about nirvano, what is his name, stilton, no, kurdt. yes. there he elaborates on the same notion. how for a brief moment and then boom, you have arrrrrr what?

so for him & co "punk" does not stand for 1977, its stands for (quote another movie title) "attitude" that continues-- an ethos, of sorts. and that same idea repeats again in said movie "punk is/ punk ain't" (marlon riggs).

any huevos hueveras chalona akkording to said notion pop culture versions of "noise" would belong to the same punk current. so no, metal machine music didnt break the mainstream (or however it was that keeem put itt).

i say pop culture versions of noise cuz back in the 30s maybe the avantgardists were already shitting up a storm with electroacoustic paraphernalia however little did it catch though it resurged perhaps in the 70s though it never disappeared but wasnt part of "youth culture", jazz was (then). however then ornette coleman albert ayler aha! aha! welllllll;;;;

[ann ashtray]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

the idea is one of throoston, who claims that in the early 90s the punk-ish "outside" music broke through the mainstream-- the phrase is actually said by kim in the movie-- that idea repeats itself when throoston wrote his neu york times piece about nirvano, what is his name, stilton, no, kurdt. yes. there he elaborates on the same notion. how for a brief moment and then boom, you have arrrrrr what?

so for him & co "punk" does not stand for 1977, its stands for (quote another movie title) "attitude" that continues-- an ethos, of sorts. and that same idea repeats again in said movie "punk is/ punk ain't" (marlon riggs).

any huevos hueveras chalona akkording to said notion pop culture versions of "noise" would belong to the same punk current. so no, metal machine music didnt break the mainstream (or however it was that keeem put itt).

i say pop culture versions of noise cuz back in the 30s maybe the avantgardists were already shitting up a storm with electroacoustic paraphernalia however little did it catch though it resurged perhaps in the 70s though it never disappeared but wasnt part of "youth culture", jazz was (then). however then ornette coleman albert ayler aha! aha! welllllll;;;;

That's one interpretation, yes. Its also one I've already considered. I just prefer "broke" as in "fell apart" better. Only because its more fun.

[atsonicpark]

like 80 years ago.

[Rob Instigator]

the year punk broke.

that does not necessarily mean the year punk broke through to the mainstream.

to me it means the year punk BROKE. the year that all it's aspirations died.

[Rob Instigator]

noise was broke when it started! ha!

[chrome noise tape]

fuck mainstream. punk never broke...punk it's not dead...punk it's alive.

[looking glass spectacle]

punk broke down when it stopped being broke. or anway that's what ben weasel told me. fuck thurston and his cash money.

[noisereductions]

I don't follow politics.