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Old 01.09.2007, 03:57 PM   #1
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I just started reading it around 15-20 pages in, I really dig it's lack of any kind of sense of real continuity or plot, and this guy can really write but sometimes I find him a little too effective and real nautious like when he talks about the ectoplasm and the broken glass in legs.
Anybody read it? Any thoughts? Has anybody seen the movie becasue so far I don't see how it could wyrk as a movie...
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Old 01.09.2007, 04:00 PM   #2
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Yeah, the book as it is is pretty much unfilmable.
The movie is great, but it's more of an amalgamation of certain details from the book intermixed with biographical details from Burroughs' life.
I enjoyed it a lot, but it seems to polarize opinion.
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Old 01.09.2007, 04:10 PM   #3
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I love the book. It really opened my mind in regards as to what a novel could be, and it oozes evil like nothing else I've read. It's great.

Oh yeah, there is somewhat of a plot, but it takes a while to get going.
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Old 01.09.2007, 04:44 PM   #4
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I just started reading it around 15-20 pages in, I really dig it's lack of any kind of sense of real continuity or plot, and this guy can really write but sometimes I find him a little too effective and real nautious like when he talks about the ectoplasm and the broken glass in legs.
Anybody read it? Any thoughts? Has anybody seen the movie becasue so far I don't see how it could wyrk as a movie...

i read it, i thought it was quite boring, except for his theories on apomorphin etc. i find burroughs quite overrated by people who are into drugs, i mean, looking for an excuse to get high.
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Old 01.09.2007, 04:46 PM   #5
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i read it, i thought it was quite boring, except for his theories on apomorphin etc. i find burroughs quite overrated by people who are into drugs, i mean, looking for an excuse to get high.

I'm not into drugs, I actully find most drug movies boring, but this I'm really enjoying this book so far.
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Old 01.09.2007, 04:59 PM   #6
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i read it, i thought it was quite boring, except for his theories on apomorphin etc. i find burroughs quite overrated...

Fuck yes.

I find his adulation puzzling to say the least.
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Old 01.09.2007, 05:05 PM   #7
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i read it, i thought it was quite boring, except for his theories on apomorphin etc. i find burroughs quite overrated by people who are into drugs, i mean, looking for an excuse to get high.


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Old 01.09.2007, 05:09 PM   #8
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I bought it the other month. I'm yet to read it. I'm looking forward to when I do.
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Old 01.09.2007, 05:11 PM   #9
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I love the book. It really opened my mind in regards as to what a novel could be, and it oozes evil like nothing else I've read. It's great.

Oh yeah, there is somewhat of a plot, but it takes a while to get going.

Same thing for me. I loved the book, and regardless of whether or not there is a plot (I suppose it can be argued for or against), don't go searching for plot in the book, read and enjoy, or read and don't enjoy. It's a tough read at parts, especially the weird death/sex 'scenes'. I grimaced and ...can't remember the word...'d at many parts, but enjoyed it no less, if not more for it's ability to make me do that.
I want to see the movie baaad.

*Oh, and !@#$%!, I'm not into drugs either, and enjoyed it.
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Old 01.09.2007, 07:41 PM   #10
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i read on the road 2 years ago, and was really hoping to like burroughs.
unfortunately, in my opinion, i think it's over-rated. i thought it was a mediocre book at best, didn't get the hype. the cut-up technique was an original and "far out there" existential technique yada yada yada, yeah, but i find the majority of the writing terribly boring. some passages are fabulously written however, with wonderful ideas, but the novel never did anything for me as a whole.
it's not a bad book, just not as brilliant and genius as everyone makes out.
"junky" is much more interesting, i thought.
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Old 01.09.2007, 11:47 PM   #11
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Same thing for me. I loved the book, and regardless of whether or not there is a plot (I suppose it can be argued for or against), don't go searching for plot in the book, read and enjoy, or read and don't enjoy. It's a tough read at parts, especially the weird death/sex 'scenes'. I grimaced and ...can't remember the word...'d at many parts, but enjoyed it no less, if not more for it's ability to make me do that.
I want to see the movie baaad.

*Oh, and !@#$%!, I'm not into drugs either, and enjoyed it.

Yeah, it's one of the few books that really messed with me and made me feel ill at ease. I haven't seen the movie, but I'm considering it. I sort of decided to give up on book-to-movie adaptations recently, but from what I've heard about the movie I might go back on that decision.
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Old 01.10.2007, 04:43 AM   #12
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On the Road is great.

I started reading Naked Lunch today. I read Burroughs introduction which I found interesting, but only got through a few pages of the novel. Only a few pages when my mind wasn't completely focused on reading and them few pages are a blur as to whats going on. I'm like what the fuck? I'll most likely have to read them pages again.
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Old 01.10.2007, 04:45 AM   #13
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the book is great and so are all the other burroughs i have read except for maybe the wild boys. the movie is also fantastic. however my favourite(s) are the western lands trilogy which has a lot of content based around the geopolitics of a future which we are quite close to now.
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Old 01.10.2007, 04:48 AM   #14
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the movie is fucking great-- cronenberg is a film god.
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Old 01.10.2007, 05:31 AM   #15
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I haven't read the book, but the movie was good.
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liked the book and the movie. there is no way that the movie could have anything like as much as the book does in it but it wasnt a bad adaptation especially as burroughs himslef was on set for a lot of it.
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I'm like what the fuck? I'll most likely have to read them pages again.
Do it just cuz you feel like doing it . you dont miss things when you dont "get" a passage of this book . just take it as it is .
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i've seen the movie which was pretty good but not amazing, but i still want to read the book because from all accounts its quite alot different and i've got some audio files of burroughs which i think are pretty interesting, so i'd like to see how he writes
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On the Road is not by Burroughs! It was written by Jack Kerouac, and it's fucking excellent. Kerouac wrote it over like a 3-week period as a stream of consciousness, and based on the spontaneous road trips of Kerouac and his friends across mid-century America. It was never meant to be some mindblowing, innovative novel.

I read Naked Lunch forever ago, I dig Burroughs. He was a hardcore old junky with a crazy mind.




 

Naked Lunch the movie is a mind fuck. It's fun to watch. Not a classic or anything though by any means.

i think you misunderstand.
i meant that i read "on the road", and was immediately in love with it, so i thought i would search out other books written by the beats. that is why i was wanting to like burroughs so much, but it never clicked with me. i know all about on the road, haha, i was extremely obsessed with it for a year.
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