Dear Science

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 03:29 AM

After another night spent dissecting this album with my ears I came to the conclusion that it's one of the best records I've ever listened to in my whole life.
I don't care about possible "haterz" out there, I just wanted to say this.

PAULYBEE2656 · 02.17.2009, 12:25 PM

you dont have an option for "pleasently suprised but its all hype and im not covinced just yet......"

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 12:30 PM

Go for the "black guys" thing, I'll know what you mean.
Btw, my judgment is not affected by hype at all (they're not even that "big" over here).
I just love this record, so full of influences, layers, sounds, voices, melodies, perfect pop. I used to like more their previous lps, but after a full immersion in this one I'm really uber impressed.
Along with Alopecia my fav "pop" record of the year.

floatingslowly · 02.17.2009, 12:43 PM

I want to love it (I really do), but I can't seem to stop listening to Return to Cookie Mt. long enough for it to take hold.

lol black guys.

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 12:57 PM

try harder flotz, I had the same "problem", but this is even better than cookie mountain imo. I can't explain this very well, but damn, I kinda "fell" into it while listening, a sort of epiphany (Joycian).

SYRFox · 02.17.2009, 01:01 PM

This album really disapointed me . I'm a huge fan of Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes and Return To Cookie Mountain, but I couldn't get into this one. I felt like they're always doing too much on it, like why do they always feel they need to go on with trumpets and violins and all? Minimalism suited them very well. And I felt vocal harmonies were so ordinary, it bored me. I think all tracks include very good elements (the rhythmics are all bloody excellent), but they're wasted by that "too much" feeling. There's only two tracks I can say I find really good: Love Dog and DLZ

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox

This album really disapointed me . I'm a huge fan of Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes and Return To Cookie Mountain, but I couldn't get into this one. I felt like they're always doing too much on it, like why do they always feel they need to go on with trumpets and violins and all? Minimalism suited them very well. And I felt vocal harmonies were so ordinary, it bored me. I think all tracks include very good elements (the rhythmics are all bloody excellent), but they're wasted by that "too much" feeling. There's only two tracks I can say I find really good: Love Dog and DLZ

This is EXACTLY what I thought till a few days ago.
Somehow something "triggered" in my head while listening and now I love every single sound in it.
By the way, I'm not trying to "convince" you guys about its qualities, as I said in my first post I just wanted to "profess my love" for it on here.

floatingslowly · 02.17.2009, 01:10 PM

I've found that (for me) the best albums are usually inaccessible at first.

TVOTR is in the running for "my current favorite band", but I still can't get into Dear Science.

although I removed it from myPod, I'll give it another listen tonite when I can (just for nic).

I want to love it SO BAD.

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I want to love it SO BAD.

Perhaps that's your "fault". I didn't "want to", I just thought, "oh well, another listen won't hurt", and it happened.

ha ha I talk like a lame ass blogspot guru tonight.

Rob Instigator · 02.17.2009, 01:23 PM

great great stuff

I got all their shit

seen them twice live. GREAT fucking show. amazing show

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 02.17.2009, 01:29 PM

I'm with SYRFox on this one. Though I still can't quite get into Cookie Mountain. I think it's half awesome half suck. That sort of sums them up as a band for me.

Rob Instigator · 02.17.2009, 01:36 PM

catch a live show if you can. your balls will throb with tvotr goodness

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 02.17.2009, 01:42 PM

I went to see them last time they were in Pittsburgh but the show was sold out. I didn't realize how popular they were.

SuperCreep · 02.17.2009, 01:47 PM

I'm not sure where I stand on this band. They have some great moments, but not enough to keep me interested for an entire album, which is probably why I think their best work is Young Liars by a good distance.

Rob Instigator · 02.17.2009, 01:50 PM

the album sdo sound oddly clinical, devoid of the OOOMPH that drives their live show.

their cover of Mr Grieves is cool though

floatingslowly · 02.17.2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

Perhaps that's your "fault". I didn't "want to", I just thought, "oh well, another listen won't hurt", and it happened.

I would tend to agree with you, but how is it my fault for expecting to be blown away with first listen?

if anyone is to blame, surely, it's them for creating pant-soiling masterpieces.

fishmonkey · 02.17.2009, 03:16 PM

yeah i like TVOTR they are refreshing like running thru a cornfield with no clothes on.

nicfit · 02.17.2009, 03:20 PM

Pescescimmia is back!!! I didn't notice! Welcome back boyo.

Dr. Eugene Felikson · 02.17.2009, 03:59 PM

I love TVOTR, they had me under their soulful spell ever since I first laid ears on them. I really enjoyed both Desperate Youth and Cookie Mountain. Dear Science doesn't click with me as well, most songs seem very hit or miss. But, there has to be a reason it was titled best album of '08 by both Rolling Stone and SPIN magazine.

Decayed Rhapsody · 02.17.2009, 07:06 PM

The songs from this record are better live. I think this was their Prince pastiche or whatever. RTCM and YL are still my favorites.

I will say that they are fantastic musicians and are capable of doing some really out-there radical shit if they really felt like it (at least for their typical audience). Kyp and Dave are really into people like Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, Milford Graves, Pharaoh Sanders.

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02.17.2009, 03:29 AM	#1
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	After another night spent dissecting this album with my ears I came to the conclusion that it's one of the best records I've ever listened to in my whole life. I don't care about possible "haterz" out there, I just wanted to say this. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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02.17.2009, 12:30 PM	#3
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Go for the "black guys" thing, I'll know what you mean. Btw, my judgment is not affected by hype at all (they're not even that "big" over here). I just love this record, so full of influences, layers, sounds, voices, melodies, perfect pop. I used to like more their previous lps, but after a full immersion in this one I'm really uber impressed. Along with Alopecia my fav "pop" record of the year. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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02.17.2009, 12:43 PM	#4
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	I want to love it (I really do), but I can't seem to stop listening to Return to Cookie Mt. long enough for it to take hold. lol black guys.
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02.17.2009, 12:57 PM	#5
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	try harder flotz, I had the same "problem", but this is even better than cookie mountain imo. I can't explain this very well, but damn, I kinda "fell" into it while listening, a sort of epiphany (Joycian). __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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02.17.2009, 01:01 PM	#6
SYRFox invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 7,492	This album really disapointed me . I'm a huge fan of Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes and Return To Cookie Mountain, but I couldn't get into this one. I felt like they're always doing too much on it, like why do they always feel they need to go on with trumpets and violins and all? Minimalism suited them very well. And I felt vocal harmonies were so ordinary, it bored me. I think all tracks include very good elements (the rhythmics are all bloody excellent), but they're wasted by that "too much" feeling. There's only two tracks I can say I find really good: Love Dog and DLZ
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02.17.2009, 01:10 PM	#8
floatingslowly invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 21,165	I've found that (for me) the best albums are usually inaccessible at first. TVOTR is in the running for "my current favorite band", but I still can't get into Dear Science. although I removed it from myPod, I'll give it another listen tonite when I can (just for nic). I want to love it SO BAD.
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02.17.2009, 01:23 PM	#10
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	great great stuff I got all their shit seen them twice live. GREAT fucking show. amazing show __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.17.2009, 01:29 PM	#11
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I'm with SYRFox on this one. Though I still can't quite get into Cookie Mountain. I think it's half awesome half suck. That sort of sums them up as a band for me.
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02.17.2009, 01:36 PM	#12
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	catch a live show if you can. your balls will throb with tvotr goodness __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.17.2009, 01:42 PM	#13
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I went to see them last time they were in Pittsburgh but the show was sold out. I didn't realize how popular they were.
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02.17.2009, 01:47 PM	#14
SuperCreep expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: brooklyn Posts: 2,281	I'm not sure where I stand on this band. They have some great moments, but not enough to keep me interested for an entire album, which is probably why I think their best work is Young Liars by a good distance. __________________
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02.17.2009, 01:50 PM	#15
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	the album sdo sound oddly clinical, devoid of the OOOMPH that drives their live show. their cover of Mr Grieves is cool though __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.17.2009, 03:16 PM	#17
fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	yeah i like TVOTR they are refreshing like running thru a cornfield with no clothes on. __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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02.17.2009, 03:20 PM	#18
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	Pescescimmia is back!!! I didn't notice! Welcome back boyo. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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02.17.2009, 03:59 PM	#19
Dr. Eugene Felikson invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7,571	I love TVOTR, they had me under their soulful spell ever since I first laid ears on them. I really enjoyed both Desperate Youth and Cookie Mountain. Dear Science doesn't click with me as well, most songs seem very hit or miss. But, there has to be a reason it was titled best album of '08 by both Rolling Stone and SPIN magazine.
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02.17.2009, 07:06 PM	#20
Decayed Rhapsody the destroyed room Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 572	The songs from this record are better live. I think this was their Prince pastiche or whatever. RTCM and YL are still my favorites. I will say that they are fantastic musicians and are capable of doing some really out-there radical shit if they really felt like it (at least for their typical audience). Kyp and Dave are really into people like Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, Milford Graves, Pharaoh Sanders.
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