[gast30]

10 days left

who is "afraid" or sees the beginning of the real doomdays for america

me as a realist:-if this auto-mechanism starts on 1-1-2013
this is the beginning of a doom-age for america

not joking

[gast30]

the americans who thought the bad days are in the past
haven't seen BAD days

[floatingslowly]

Crash & Burn

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

 

Originally Posted by gast30

the americans who thought the bad days are in the past
haven't seen BAD days

Bad Americans

[tw2113]

We're financial morons and can't realize we spend too much as a country

[gast30]

-it is allways best to break the seriousness around a subject


hopefully i didn't scare you all too much (culticdoomphrofetici)

everyday looks the same
because you allways wake up on earth

and hopefully the net generations can wake up on other planets

anyway the talk of money and the injuistice this has brought all along

you can say that money is the tongue of the devil
the tool of satan

with only saying what the problem is, it isn't gone out of the human world

what bad things did money do to you?

did you lost a friend(s) for money?

did people in your family fight for the inheritance?

did you lost a lover for money? ( this is a trick question, because love isn't payable)

were you seduced to live from money on other peoples back ( poor country workforces )?

did you sell stocks from wallstreet to old and confused people and stole their savings ?

and soo the list goes on

[gast30]

Originally Posted by tw2113

We're financial morons and can't realize we spend too much as a country

it is not WE

it is the people who are responsable that made this mess and don't take responsibily and try to walk away from this as a child

1 ALL PEOPLE OF THE FINANCIAL WORLD ARE RESPONSIBLE 1

2 ALL PEOPLE THAT GO TO VOTE FOR A BETTER FINANCIAL SITUATIONS ARE VICTIMS OF A CORRUPT DEMOCRATY 2

OK 1 AND 2

JUISTICE 1 = GUILTY

CORRUPT DEMOCRATY = NO JUISTICE FOR THE PEOPLE

conclusion: better no america then a corrupt illigal america

from today on there is no more america

captain america is dead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfYj3gL01uI

[gast30]

.....ALL THE CORRUPT ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzK97Aaj_U8

[gast30]

there is only one person on this planet that didn't let you down ...

the satellite king

in the name of the first light
a*beam

[gast30]

i'm very curious what will happen
9 days left

and in the summer of 2013 we will see what the real situation
reopen this thread

[dale_gribble]

all your base are belong to us

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

 

Bad Americans

lolololol

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by tw2113

We're financial morons and can't realize we spend too much as a country

No, its the complete opposite problem, Americans like the government to spend a lot, and then don't like to pay for it after the fact. Cutting spending is NOT the problem, its that middle class America needs to realize that they need to pay 1990s taxes at let these Bush tax cuts go. They crippled us the past 11 years, and they will only continue to cripple us in the future. Middle-class Americans can afford too many personal luxuries meanwhile our society crumbles. Too many Americans are selfish and cling to an irredentist view of America. They want some kind of Libertarian fantasy. This is a mixed economy, not Capitalism. The tax code is corporate welfare. There is no such thing as fair competition. So lets grow up, face the music of our reality rather than the delusions of our ideologies, and get back to work.

[tw2113]

So you're blaming the middle class for the whole mess, because they're not paying tax rates from the 90s?

I agree, cutting spending isn't the problem, it's a decent chunk of the solution.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by tw2113

So you're blaming the middle class for the whole mess, because they're not paying tax rates from the 90s?

I agree, cutting spending isn't the problem, it's a decent chunk of the solution.

Yes, yes I am. It is a dirty little secret the President doesn't want you to know, but the reality is that the middle-class tax cuts were about equally as expensive over the past 11 years as have been the corporate rate cuts. In other words, if we just raise corporate and high-income rates, we will still have a continuing structural deficit problem. If we were to immediately enact the truly necessary level of cuts across the board we would gut public services while destroying the military-industrial complex which coincidentally employes 1 in 10 Americans. In other words, EVERYBODY would be pissed off and broker. So we can avoid this if we as Americans simply AGREE to PAY for all the services we enjoy, including the military-industrial economy which is solidly middle class.

We need to let the entirety of the Bush Tax cuts go, period. How else are we going to fill in all the gaps of a 1.3TRILLION budget deficit? If we were to immediately cut even half of that, there would be riots in the streets and our comparisons to Greece would suddenly become more literal than paranoid.

[gast30]

28h left

and then it starts

[gast30]

who here will not be able to pay internet, can say their goodbye now here

>>

ps: nice meeting you

[afterthefact]

They said that if this whole thing goes through, worst case scenario for my bracket would be an extra 2 percent towards taxes each week. I don't know if it is true or not, but I can live with that. Let the cards fall as they may, that's what I say.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by afterthefact

They said that if this whole thing goes through, worst case scenario for my bracket would be an extra 2 percent towards taxes each week. I don't know if it is true or not, but I can live with that. Let the cards fall as they may, that's what I say.

Smart man. I agree, the Bush Tax cuts have crippled our government for a decade now, its time to let them go. The reality is the Americans whose taxes will go up, one way or another can afford it, and those Americans who quite literally couldn't afford it generally are in such low-income brackets so as not to pay Federal income taxes anyways, the "47%" of Mitt Romney fame..

[afterthefact]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Smart man. I agree, the Bush Tax cuts have crippled our government for a decade now, its time to let them go. The reality is the Americans whose taxes will go up, one way or another can afford it, and those Americans who quite literally couldn't afford it generally are in such low-income brackets so as not to pay Federal income taxes anyways, the "47%" of Mitt Romney fame..

Exactly. The fact is, the responsibility lies on each one of us to live our lives in a way to not put unnecessary burden on ourselves. If I make $2000 a month, and I go put and buy tons of stuff on credit and end up with bills at almost $2000 a month, then any little change is risky. But if I make $1500 a month, and rent a small apartment, drive an older used car, and learn to be content with what I have, I can still have enough of a cushion that I can take a small blow and be ok. Neither one of those are considered large amounts of income by any means, but regardless of what you make, it's up to you to make sure you are living within your means.