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Old 12.27.2006, 02:15 PM   #1
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I think the walls in my room are concrete. Whenever I play music at a loud volume... like, yesterday, I played the Cocteau Twin's Lullabies to Violaine while I was in front of my computer: the majority of the sound, coming from the foot-high/foot-wide stereo under my bed that's maybe 5 feet away (I placed it under my bed because the bass booms a hell of a lot more that way for some reason), hit my right ear. However certain droning melodic tones hummed in my left ear; a wall's to my left. And when I touched the wall beside me I could "feel" the music. I love this room! I love wall-to-wall music!

Can anyone explain the reason for this?
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Old 12.27.2006, 02:17 PM   #2
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Old 12.27.2006, 02:22 PM   #3
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jesus and/or science.

Jesus and science are inseparable? I certainly do feel a kind of rush whenever the sounds sort of drone against the walls.
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Old 12.27.2006, 03:25 PM   #4
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we used to play in the basement of this house I used to rent a room from, and it had a small concrete room that had awesome acoustics... too bad the guys I played with there sucked, or I would have recorded something in there
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Old 12.27.2006, 03:28 PM   #5
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Old 12.30.2006, 12:15 AM   #6
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what you are describing is called a standing wave, this occurs when the wave form is as long as the distance between your walls. for example a 20hz sine wave is approximately 17 meters wide, so if you have a room 17 meters wide that frequency will bounce from one wall to the other quite easily, as it hits each wall it loses approximately half of its power which is about 6db. this makes that frequency sound for longer than all others in the room.
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Old 12.30.2006, 02:07 PM   #7
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what you are describing is called a standing wave, this occurs when the wave form is as long as the distance between your walls. for example a 20hz sine wave is approximately 17 meters wide, so if you have a room 17 meters wide that frequency will bounce from one wall to the other quite easily, as it hits each wall it loses approximately half of its power which is about 6db. this makes that frequency sound for longer than all others in the room.

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Old 12.30.2006, 02:11 PM   #8
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I think the walls in my room are concrete. Whenever I play music at a loud volume... like, yesterday, I played the Cocteau Twin's Lullabies to Violaine while I was in front of my computer: the majority of the sound, coming from the foot-high/foot-wide stereo under my bed that's maybe 5 feet away (I placed it under my bed because the bass booms a hell of a lot more that way for some reason), hit my right ear. However certain droning melodic tones hummed in my left ear; a wall's to my left. And when I touched the wall beside me I could "feel" the music. I love this room! I love wall-to-wall music!

Can anyone explain the reason for this?
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Old 12.30.2006, 02:15 PM   #9
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Was it the "feel the music" part that Lynched you? Must have been.
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Old 12.30.2006, 02:34 PM   #10
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When I was a little kid and my Dad was working construction he used to take me inside of empty water tanks. like this one
 


He would take a guitar inside and play it. It echoed like crazy. sounded awesome
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Old 12.30.2006, 02:44 PM   #11
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When I was a little kid and my Dad was working construction he used to take me inside of empty water tanks. He would take a guitar inside and play it. It echoed like crazy. sounded awesome

I suggest that you tell your Dad you love him every day of your life
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I suggest that you tell your Dad you love him every day of your life
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Old 12.30.2006, 04:35 PM   #13
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Old 12.30.2006, 06:04 PM   #14
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Dude, I don't even know what that means... But thank you anyway.
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Musique Concrete is the shit and if you've got a wall of that, congrats.
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Musique Concrete is the shit and if you've got a wall of that, congrats.

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einsturzende neubauten recorded one track in a big disused metal watertower near berlin. the results reverberrated around the record like a big clanging echo.........concrete music? you need to be a big fucking brick to like that!!!
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I think the walls in my room are concrete. Whenever I play music at a loud volume... like, yesterday, I played the Cocteau Twin's Lullabies to Violaine while I was in front of my computer: the majority of the sound, coming from the foot-high/foot-wide stereo under my bed that's maybe 5 feet away (I placed it under my bed because the bass booms a hell of a lot more that way for some reason), hit my right ear. However certain droning melodic tones hummed in my left ear; a wall's to my left. And when I touched the wall beside me I could "feel" the music. I love this room! I love wall-to-wall music!

Can anyone explain the reason for this?

harmonic resonances in the room

for more info on this, check out hm the guy who made music on a long thin wire, whats his name? alvin lucier!! yes.

i am sitting in a room...

(googles...)

of course! it's in ubu net...

http://www.ubu.com/sound/lucier.html

mang!! listen...
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einsturzende neubauten recorded one track in a big disused metal watertower near berlin. the results reverberrated around the record like a big clanging echo.........concrete music? you need to be a big fucking brick to like that!!!

paulybee, this does not appear on any of the en recordings except a little story alexander hacke tells to the doc maker of lieberslieder on the lieberslieder doco.
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