[ricechex]

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1841989

unheard of money..obscene. considering the current oil situation and our prices. of course, the dude blames it on supply and demand and shortages...BUT hey,"we're all in this together"..haha.

but yeah, CITGO is Venezeulan state owned..

[krastian]

I always buy my gas from Citgo.....no particular reason though.

[!@#$%!]

is there such thing as a "good" oil company though??

and when you buy citgo, are you supporting authoritarian governments in latin america?

[ricechex]

Well, it's arguably becoming that way over here too. i'd rather be taken by a foreign country than betrayed and mislead by my own.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by ricechex

Well, it's arguably becoming that way over here too. i'd rather be taken by a foreign country than betrayed and mislead by my own.

no no-- venezuela is not going to "take you"-- chavez likes to export his shoddy populism around his neighborhood though. and it's spreading.

latin america thanks your american dollars

[ricechex]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

no no-- venezuela is not going to "take you"-- chavez likes to export his shoddy populism around his neighborhood though. and it's spreading.

latin america thanks your american dollars

no, they're not taking me as bad, b/c Citgo is cheaper. Their costs should likely be higher, having to import anyways, yet Exxon is more expensive,and is the number one money making machine in all the land, along w/Wal-Mart. thems the facts.

[!@#$%!]

sure, exxon suxx, citgo maybe a bit less; my point only being that there's no "pure" action, i mean one without unwanted consequences. well, i don't want to get too philosophical on the internet-- i'm not sure the world can be "fixed" though.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Gas prices wouldn't be nearly as high if Americans didn't exercise such heavy demand. If the price goes up 20 cents, people will still buy gas. The consumers need to send a message to the industry, but apparently the consumers are too dumb to realize that.

[ricechex]

yes, no pure action to thwart it, unless i want to start driving one of these vegetable oil cars..haha. but gas.co in america are in a very good position to make tons of money. the reasons they make this obscene amount of money are not acceptable to me. record profits while we pay $3 a gallon, up two fold in just a couple years from before iraq? something's up.

[!@#$%!]

if you run on vegetable oil, then monsanto is going to make shitloads of money. is monsanto better than exxon? hm....

[Пятхъдесят Шест]

Ride A Bike!

[ricechex]

missing the point. but fine with me.. monsanto gets my money for a while. they're gonna need..forever.. before they even touch exxon like profits.

[noumenal]

 

[!@#$%!]

dude, monsanto is fucking evil. i'm not going to go into detail about the kind of shit they do with genetic engineering. i mean im not agains genetic engineering, im no hippy, but they just have no fucking ethics when it comes to putting products in the market. they are the ecological equivalent of a crack pusher. yes yes, it's metaphors, i like fucking hyperbole, i'm not going to waste time philosophizing here. just read up a little is all i ask.

 

[noumenal]

Want to get pissed at some corporations? Watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/view/

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by noumenal

Want to get pissed at some corporations? Watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/view/

thanks, not really... my whole point of posting here is that there is not "good place" to put your gas money really. for example, the much-touted "hydrogen technology" is mostly an oil industry ploy to produce hydrogen from... fossil fuels!-- such as coal-- there are other ways, but this shit is a scam. look, they themselves are saying it: hydrogen from fossil fuels. sure, hydrogen might "burn clean", but if it comes from coal, well, DUUUUHHH!!!

do i sound like a cynic? maybe. i'm just trying to learn from voltaire & improve my own corner of the world. i'll leave the big issues to the charge of internet forums.

(yes, i'm bitter).

[noumenal]

I wasn't trying to enter into the debate, I was just posting a link to a cool video. It really has little to do with this thread.

[!@#$%!]

i had a long day & i need a laugh. unfortunately, the freaks aren't around today. hah hah! freaks... yeah freaks... where the fuck did they go?

i gotta go...

[ricechex]

right here. the debate has wandered off. i would have to suggest reading up on how Exxon hasn't fulfilled the 5 billion they still owe on the Valdez spill before reading up on something as unrelated as Monsanto.

buy citgo, buy 19, buy mom and pop..power to the people! fuck exxon!

[qprogeny79]

ceos deserve every penny of what they get, especially in the oil industry. anyone who can lead his company to turn a profit in the hellish environment of gas taxes, environmental prohibitions on drilling, bureaucratic impediments to refinery construction, heterogeneous interstate requirements on fuel blends, importation from foreign cartels of producers who set prices at will, insane political volatility in virtually every major oil-exporting nation, etc. -- let alone become the most profitable company in the nation -- must be a serious genius.