Ready to die - Iggy and the Stooges

Aaaadrpk · 02.25.2013, 11:34 AM

http://vimeo.com/60293792

http://vimeo.com/60293119

pad_023 · 02.25.2013, 11:40 AM

The clip sounds awful

dazedcola · 02.25.2013, 01:10 PM

im extremely skeptical about this after the tragedy that was the weirdness

Mortte Jousimo · 02.27.2013, 01:39 PM

Of course "Scarerecrow" doesn´t sound as great as any song in Raw Power, but anyway it sounds lot better than anything in Weirdness. I really consider to buy that new one...

Severian · 03.14.2013, 06:11 PM

I'm not sure I'm ok with anyone- not even the Stooges- using Ready to Die as an album title. For some reason it just doesn't seem right to me. It's one thing to cheekily call your album Let it Be and fill it with greasy sloppy American punk... Or to swipe a title from CCR and reinvent and own it so completely that John Fogerty himself would have to admit that you used it better. But this just seems lazy and a little irritating.

I am thankful for the Stooges reunion, but only because it gave me the opportunity to see them live. I'd rather they not attempt to add to their once perfect discography.

louder · 03.14.2013, 06:29 PM

won't be as great as Biggie's Ready to Die.

Torn Curtain · 03.31.2013, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaaadrpk

http://vimeo.com/60293119

At first I really thought it was Loose (the riffs are very similar).

TheMadcapLaughs · 04.01.2013, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by louder

won't be as great as Biggie's Ready to Die.

most albums in general aren't

Mortte Jousimo · 05.23.2013, 03:27 AM

Got this yesterday. Cover is great, but it´s only thing that´s great in it. Only thing that makes it better than Weirdness is Williamson is still one hell of a guitarist. It seems Iggy just have nothing left about the wild beast he used to be in the seventies. Hope the name means they don´t do any studio records anymore. The most interesting songs in the album are those three ones that don´t sound Stooges at all. Maybe they should have gone that direction instead trying to make "Stooges-riffs".

ann ashtray · 05.23.2013, 04:28 AM

[quote=dazedcola]im extremely skeptical about this after the tragedy that was the weirdness[/quote

This isn't the same band, though. Must be remembered.

ann ashtray · 05.23.2013, 04:38 AM

This isn't the Stooges in their prime, but it's considerably better than most everything else rock coming out these days. James guitar playing is badass. The weakest link, as I've come to expect, is Iggy himself. Seems as if a fair amount of time went into the actual music. I can't say the same for the lyrics. It is better than The Weirdness. Considerably so. But then again, it's not really the same band either. Something important most forget about the Stooges is that those first two records, and Raw Power were NOT the same, nor intended to be the same, bands. James Williamson added an element that was very different than those first two records as him and Ronnie are two very different types of players. Ron played little to no role in the writing that went into Raw Power. They are fun to compare and contrast....

Ron, way more poetic, loose. That trashy blues and free jazz and Ravi Shankar no doubt came out in his playing in various ways.

James - More technically efficient (most guitar players, including myself, will tell ya his riffs are much more difficult to play. I honestly can't play many of them). His influences weren't as obvious, which is funny cause the argument could probably be made that his playing is/was more generic than Ron's.

It's not the best record ever, but it's a lot of fun. I recommend giving it a listen. I was honestly surprised at how good it was compared to what I thought it would be.

Mortte Jousimo · 05.23.2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ann ashtray

This isn't the Stooges in their prime, but it's considerably better than most everything else rock coming out these days. James guitar playing is badass. The weakest link, as I've come to expect, is Iggy himself. Seems as if a fair amount of time went into the actual music. I can't say the same for the lyrics. It is better than The Weirdness. Considerably so. But then again, it's not really the same band either. Something important most forget about the Stooges is that those first two records, and Raw Power were NOT the same, nor intended to be the same, bands. James Williamson added an element that was very different than those first two records as him and Ronnie are two very different types of players. Ron played little to no role in the writing that went into Raw Power. They are fun to compare and contrast....

Ron, way more poetic, loose. That trashy blues and free jazz and Ravi Shankar no doubt came out in his playing in various ways.

James - More technically efficient (most guitar players, including myself, will tell ya his riffs are much more difficult to play. I honestly can't play many of them). His influences weren't as obvious, which is funny cause the argument could probably be made that his playing is/was more generic than Ron's.

It's not the best record ever, but it's a lot of fun. I recommend giving it a listen. I was honestly surprised at how good it was compared to what I thought it would be.

I agree that I became in a very good feelings after listening Ready to die yesterday. So I think I will listen it at least few times. And listen also in the future when I need music that isn´t too "heavy". I didn´t expect much for this, but maybe I expect little more...

Rob Instigator · 05.23.2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Severian

I'm not sure I'm ok with anyone- not even the Stooges- using Ready to Die as an album title. For some reason it just doesn't seem right to me. It's one thing to cheekily call your album Let it Be and fill it with greasy sloppy American punk... Or to swipe a title from CCR and reinvent and own it so completely that John Fogerty himself would have to admit that you used it better. But this just seems lazy and a little irritating.

I am thankful for the Stooges reunion, but only because it gave me the opportunity to see them live. I'd rather they not attempt to add to their once perfect discography.

Their discography is far from perfect. there are some seriously boring filler tunes on Raw Power and Stooges and Fun House. For all the rightful praise the Stooges get, I see too many people ignoring their tepid filler material. They did not make great complete records in my opinion. (I know this will make swa(y) cry out his eyeholes...)

Toilet & Bowels · 05.23.2013, 09:50 AM

What the hell counts as filler on funhouse?

Rob Instigator · 05.23.2013, 10:02 AM

one man's filler is another man's slightly boring 3rd tier tune...

Toilet & Bowels · 05.23.2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

one man's filler is another man's slightly boring 3rd tier tune...

Sure, but I'm just curious which songs you find to be filler on that record, because to me it's perfect from beginning to end.

Rob Instigator · 05.23.2013, 10:34 AM

Funhouse is the best collection of songs no doubt. It is my fave Stooges.

Toilet & Bowels · 05.23.2013, 11:26 AM

Yeah, but please name the filler songs. I can understand why you'd say there's filler on the other 2 though.

Mortte Jousimo · 05.23.2013, 12:04 PM

To me there are no fillers of any of those three albums. If I have to say one filler, it will be We Will Fall, but on the other hand I like it very much too & it´s hard to imagine first album without that tune. To me perfect album doesn´t mean every song in it is perfect. It´s the entity. Or do somebody say every song is perfect for example in SY DDN?

h8kurdt · 05.23.2013, 01:02 PM

I gave the new album a listen last week and honestly, it sucks. 60 year old guys writing songs about their dicks etc just sounds a band desperate to re-live their early years.

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02.27.2013, 01:39 PM	#4
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Of course "Scarerecrow" doesn´t sound as great as any song in Raw Power, but anyway it sounds lot better than anything in Weirdness. I really consider to buy that new one...
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03.14.2013, 06:11 PM	#5
Severian invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11,745	I'm not sure I'm ok with anyone- not even the Stooges- using Ready to Die as an album title. For some reason it just doesn't seem right to me. It's one thing to cheekily call your album Let it Be and fill it with greasy sloppy American punk... Or to swipe a title from CCR and reinvent and own it so completely that John Fogerty himself would have to admit that you used it better. But this just seems lazy and a little irritating. I am thankful for the Stooges reunion, but only because it gave me the opportunity to see them live. I'd rather they not attempt to add to their once perfect discography.
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03.14.2013, 06:29 PM	#6
louder invito al cielo Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,463	won't be as great as Biggie's Ready to Die.
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05.23.2013, 03:27 AM	#9
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	Got this yesterday. Cover is great, but it´s only thing that´s great in it. Only thing that makes it better than Weirdness is Williamson is still one hell of a guitarist. It seems Iggy just have nothing left about the wild beast he used to be in the seventies. Hope the name means they don´t do any studio records anymore. The most interesting songs in the album are those three ones that don´t sound Stooges at all. Maybe they should have gone that direction instead trying to make "Stooges-riffs".
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05.23.2013, 04:28 AM	#10
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	[quote=dazedcola]im extremely skeptical about this after the tragedy that was the weirdness[/quote This isn't the same band, though. Must be remembered. __________________ Team Thurston!
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05.23.2013, 04:38 AM	#11
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	This isn't the Stooges in their prime, but it's considerably better than most everything else rock coming out these days. James guitar playing is badass. The weakest link, as I've come to expect, is Iggy himself. Seems as if a fair amount of time went into the actual music. I can't say the same for the lyrics. It is better than The Weirdness. Considerably so. But then again, it's not really the same band either. Something important most forget about the Stooges is that those first two records, and Raw Power were NOT the same, nor intended to be the same, bands. James Williamson added an element that was very different than those first two records as him and Ronnie are two very different types of players. Ron played little to no role in the writing that went into Raw Power. They are fun to compare and contrast.... Ron, way more poetic, loose. That trashy blues and free jazz and Ravi Shankar no doubt came out in his playing in various ways. James - More technically efficient (most guitar players, including myself, will tell ya his riffs are much more difficult to play. I honestly can't play many of them). His influences weren't as obvious, which is funny cause the argument could probably be made that his playing is/was more generic than Ron's. It's not the best record ever, but it's a lot of fun. I recommend giving it a listen. I was honestly surprised at how good it was compared to what I thought it would be. __________________ Team Thurston!
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,265	What the hell counts as filler on funhouse?
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,973	one man's filler is another man's slightly boring 3rd tier tune... __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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05.23.2013, 10:34 AM	#17
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,973	Funhouse is the best collection of songs no doubt. It is my fave Stooges. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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05.23.2013, 11:26 AM	#18
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,265	Yeah, but please name the filler songs. I can understand why you'd say there's filler on the other 2 though.
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05.23.2013, 12:04 PM	#19
Mortte Jousimo expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,019	To me there are no fillers of any of those three albums. If I have to say one filler, it will be We Will Fall, but on the other hand I like it very much too & it´s hard to imagine first album without that tune. To me perfect album doesn´t mean every song in it is perfect. It´s the entity. Or do somebody say every song is perfect for example in SY DDN?
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05.23.2013, 01:02 PM	#20
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	I gave the new album a listen last week and honestly, it sucks. 60 year old guys writing songs about their dicks etc just sounds a band desperate to re-live their early years. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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