[Rob Instigator]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/showbi...html?hpt=hp_c3

[evollove]

Now there is a place where I can look at the sweaty t-shirt of Joan Jett, the scribbled lyrics to "When I Come Around" and Stevie Ray's guitar pick? It's a good time to be alive.

I hope they have the good taste to also display one of Reed's needles.

[GravitySlips]

I'm mystified why anyone would give a shit about this.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Why you so burned Rob? As plips mentioned, its called "fame" not necessarily talent or art.

[Rob Instigator]

I am old fashioned and talent and art are what constitutes proper reasons to be famous....

[Genteel Death]

wtf rob? why do you care?

[Genteel Death]

oh i remember, you think female rock stars should spend more time in the kitchen wearing revealing dresses.

[louder]

takes away a lot of the excitement of N.W.A. being inducted.

edit: nevermind, just realized N.W.A. didn't make it but Green Day did. welp.

[Rob Instigator]

Green Day are female rock stars?

[Rob Instigator]

I care because I care. I don't need to justify why I care about anything to anyone and neither do you.

I love rock n roll music. Just as I love painting, and science fiction. I want the organizations dedicated to honoring and promoting the things I love to have decent standards.

The US blacks invented Jazz music, which was the first American art form to go worldwide, then they invented rock n roll, which was the second to go worldwide, and then they invented Hip Hop/Rap which was the third American art form to go worldwide. These things are important as part of human history, just like Chinese porcelain, Indian metaphysics, German science, etc.

It is a shame that white-bread Jann Werner controls the reins of the hall of fame. He will always prefer musicians who afforded Rolling Stone access and favors...

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I care because I care. I don't need to justify why I care about anything to anyone and neither do you.

I love rock n roll music. Just as I love painting, and science fiction. I want the organizations dedicated to honoring and promoting the things I love to have decent standards.

The US blacks invented Jazz music, which was the first American art form to go worldwide, then they invented rock n roll, which was the second to go worldwide, and then they invented Hip Hop/Rap which was the third American art form to go worldwide. These things are important as part of human history, just like Chinese porcelain, Indian metaphysics, German science, etc.

It is a shame that white-bread Jann Werner controls the reins of the hall of fame. He will always prefer musicians who afforded Rolling Stone access and favors...

Black people don't need being awarded trite rock and roll rhetoric to make them feel like achieving humans. That's patronising and condescending. I thought that as an adult, thinking human you understood that life's facets transcend such things and you had better interaction with others around your own environment. I was wrong, obviously. I also don't get why you're saying Green Day are not girls. Are you smoking dope again?

[Genteel Death]

In the meantime, enjoy this post-rock break . It may help you relax and think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABl9S9RBY6A

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

But that is the whole thing Rob, the HOF is NOT dedicated to anything you love, its dedicated to bullshit commercialism and a remorseless popularity contest. I think less of the HOF than I think of the results of High School ASB elections

[Rob Instigator]

if everything is free then nothing is of value

discuss

[Severian]

Man, I was sure this was a mistake... That you were reacting to a list of nominees instead of official inductees... I was already drafting a “Calm down buddy, this is just the short list” post..

Then I clicked that fucking link.

Seriously, why are we even bothering to get fired up anymore? Clearly the HOF has lower standards than the MTV Video Music Awards (which, I'm almost certain, are no longer a thing... Please tell me they're not a thing anymore... VMA's no longer exist... right?)

Anyway, I briefly un-boycotted the HOF last year because of Nirvana's massive (or so I thought) achievement of being first-year inductees. It seemed to validate their legacy... Not to me, or you, but maybe to a world that I was starting to think had forgotten them. It was gratifying to see the band of my generation being given the same treatment as established classic artists like the Beatles and Hendrix.

It was like: ok, so maybe we '90s brats didn't have a cool definitive band that scored 20 #1 singles and changed all of pop culture forever like our parents' did, with the Beatles. And maybe we didn't have a whole lot of pop groups that remained both commercially viable and fucking bloody awesome for the entirety of our formidable decade. And yeah, sure, a lot of the bands we grew up with either became fucking jokes very quickly (Oh, Butthole Surfers-- what was that major label buzz bin shit all about?), or became almost embarrassingly lame and sad by trying to win back super alienated fans (Pearl Jam, Pumpkins, Jane's, REM)...

but you know what we did have? We had a punk band that sounded like pop going through heroin withdrawal, and kicked the shit out of everything before or since... Our own mangy, distorted, bipolar “Fab 3” who went to #1 even when they tried to do the opposite. We had our slacker equivalent to your posh dandy Brita, and our guys never had a chance to get old and lame.


But now I understand how little that actually meant. Green Day was a 1 album wonder for sooooo long... It wasn't until we were long out of college that American Idiot struck a chord with the mall kids of the y generation. Then they finally went miltiplatinum for a second time, and then ... I don't know... They released a carbon copy of that album to squeeze all they could out of their revival. Then everyone forgot about them again, they released a triple album that I've never even heard anyone mention, or read a single review of, and they went skipping off to rehab and middle age. Oh yeah and they had a #1 song that became the soundtrack to high school graduation in 1999 or whenever. And it was awful.

So this is what it means to be a first year inductee?
Oh, and the infinitely more talented, Oscar winning, eternally relevant and astoundingly influential Nine Inch Nails, as well as the FUCKING SMITHS had to step aside for these pimpled geeks with the least imaginative band name ever? Sinful.

Oh, and as an afterthought:
“Blah blah blah list of names, list of names, more names that nobody cares about .... Lou Reed; Joan Jett and the Blackhearts; and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band will all be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame next spring.”

... But that guy was only the driving force behind the most influential experimental group in history... Oh right and he DIED last year... But anyway GREEN DAY, yeah!

This is now a real-world comedy. It's a fucking Christopher Guest movie. Anyway it damn well should be.

“It's a Mighty Wind that's Blowin' / It's Blowin' You and Me!”

[Severian]

Originally Posted by PLips

hits on sonic youth youtube songs and albums are a true hall of fame
people arent going to be fucking stupid forever when everythings free now
halls of fame are propaganda houses

edit: there is something called musician's musicians. if your peers care about your art its more important than the masses

sorry to bring up ween again but its relevant
i posted a ween thread on the south park forum and their fans barely knew anything about them

what?

they performed on Chef Aid
Matt and Trey directed a music video for them
they were going to produce a fishing show for Dean Ween last year
and you know nothing?

if the ween guys are ever in any real financial trouble i hope their peers are going to be there for them
pop culture is for 'nincompoops'

Also, if the HOF was worth its weight in pubes, Ween would totally be all up in that shit.

If any of this shit was based on skill, Trent Reznor/NIN would be in.
If it was about changing the atmosphere of pop, Joy Division and the Cure would be first year picks. And WTF, I thought NWA was already in!?

But as far as '90s artists go, speaking only of influence and originality, there are going to be some truly embarrassing ass artists that are going to start being tagged in these articles. Can you imagine when Bush's time comes? Or Oasis? Well, a case can certainly be made for Oasis, but it's slightly weaker than the case for Green Day.

Whatever! Hurry up w/ my damn croissants!

[SonikJesus]

dont care about the hof.however i am bothered that the ignorant masses do believe it to be a vital organization, thus making them believe that ALL the artists inducted are vital artists. NWA is denied but Green day gets in. joke. fucking joke. seems to me like bullshit n politics n popularity n maybe even money are involved