Does "exist" exist?

Daycare Nation · 06.05.2006, 07:23 PM

Is "is"?

m^a(t)h · 06.05.2006, 07:24 PM

yes, no

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 06.05.2006, 07:25 PM

is equals equal

Inhuman · 06.05.2006, 08:01 PM

Sonic Youth answers everything

schizophrenicroom · 06.05.2006, 08:09 PM

the yoof.

atari 2600 · 06.05.2006, 08:33 PM

Existence precedes Essence. - Jean-Paul Sartre

It's not perfect, but it sure is a leg up over Rene Descartes' "I think, therefore, I am."

To sum up Sartre's Absurdist Existentialist position:
Facticity: We find ourselves existing in a world not of our own making & indifferent to our concerns. We are not the source of our existence, but find ourselves thrown into a world we don't control & didn't choose. All true philosophy & any real faith must begin with doubt.

Anxiety: We are faced with the lack of any external source of value & determination. We are faced with the responsibility of choosing our own nature & values, &, in doing so, we are faced with the awesome responsibility of ideally choosing values for all of humanity in our free choices.

Despair: In seeing the contrast between the world we're thrown into & which we cannot control & the possible potential absolute freedom we have to create ourselves, we must despair of any hope of external value or determination & restrict ourselves to what is under our own control. This goes back to Socrates' edict of self-knowledge as the first step to understanding anything.

qprogeny79 · 06.05.2006, 08:36 PM

"existence exists" --a. rand (sorry, couldn't resist)

alyasa · 06.05.2006, 11:05 PM

"we must despair of any hope of external value or determination & restrict ourselves to what is under our own control."
I think that could be a summation of the principle of freedom.

Kallisti23chaos · 06.05.2006, 11:30 PM

form chaos came birth,from birth there was growth,when growth was achieved there was then gradual decay,the decay then ended in death.After death there were chaos ****

View Poll Results: Does "exist" exist?
What is "to exist"?	1	7.14%
I am.	4	28.57%
I think.	1	7.14%
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06.05.2006, 07:23 PM	#1
Daycare Nation expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,904	Is "is"? __________________ That dragon ain't the love sweet love.
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06.05.2006, 07:24 PM	#2
m^a(t)h expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,204	yes, no
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06.05.2006, 07:25 PM	#3
Sheriff Rhys Chatham invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England. Posts: 4,027	is equals equal __________________ My Music(grunge rock) A part of this blue shit since June 24th, 2004
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06.05.2006, 08:01 PM	#4
Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	Sonic Youth answers everything __________________ Inhuman no longer dwells on here. http://about.me/robinbastien
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06.05.2006, 08:09 PM	#5
schizophrenicroom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: behind you Posts: 10,807	the yoof. __________________ fuck i'm frustrated, freaking out something fierce, would you help me? i'm hungry and i stuffer and i startle, i struggle and i stammer til i'm up to my ears in miserable quote unquote "art"
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06.05.2006, 08:33 PM	#6
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	Existence precedes Essence. - Jean-Paul Sartre It's not perfect, but it sure is a leg up over Rene Descartes' "I think, therefore, I am." To sum up Sartre's Absurdist Existentialist position: Facticity: We find ourselves existing in a world not of our own making & indifferent to our concerns. We are not the source of our existence, but find ourselves thrown into a world we don't control & didn't choose. All true philosophy & any real faith must begin with doubt. Anxiety: We are faced with the lack of any external source of value & determination. We are faced with the responsibility of choosing our own nature & values, &, in doing so, we are faced with the awesome responsibility of ideally choosing values for all of humanity in our free choices. Despair: In seeing the contrast between the world we're thrown into & which we cannot control & the possible potential absolute freedom we have to create ourselves, we must despair of any hope of external value or determination & restrict ourselves to what is under our own control. This goes back to Socrates' edict of self-knowledge as the first step to understanding anything.
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06.05.2006, 08:36 PM	#7
qprogeny79 stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: newport news/charlottesville, va, usa. Posts: 508	"existence exists" --a. rand (sorry, couldn't resist) __________________ obligatory intellectual quote: "all men by nature desire to know." --aristotle obligatory myspace page link. obligatory myspace band page link.
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06.05.2006, 11:05 PM	#8
alyasa invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,791	"we must despair of any hope of external value or determination & restrict ourselves to what is under our own control." I think that could be a summation of the principle of freedom. __________________ Sab Kuch Tick Tock Hai
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06.05.2006, 11:30 PM	#9
Kallisti23chaos children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Akron,Ohio Posts: 310	form chaos came birth,from birth there was growth,when growth was achieved there was then gradual decay,the decay then ended in death.After death there were chaos **** __________________ "Every Man And Every Woman Is A Star "
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