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Old 02.24.2007, 02:51 PM   #1
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Just wondering. You don't hear much mention of him from da younger generation. Revisiting the Heartbreakers' LAMF album at the mo, and if there's been a better Rock n Roll LP since, I seriously wanna know about it.
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Old 02.24.2007, 03:41 PM   #2
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yeah, some of is stuff is awesome indeed

I almost prefer his solo stuff than the dolls
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Old 02.24.2007, 04:12 PM   #3
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Thurston and Watt were just talkin' about him earlier this month on the phone. Thurston remarked how he was listening to some Heartbreakers (for one) bootlegs.

Thurston & Lee & Steve Jones talked about him some during their Jonesy's Jukebox segment.

New York Dolls' David Johansen and Steve Jones also talked about him a bit during their program.

Perhaps this lends itself to meeting the criteria of "cool."
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Old 02.24.2007, 05:11 PM   #4
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In 8th grade I thought he was the coolest thing ever. Deep down I haven't changed much since then. "So Alone" is still one of my favorite records, probably Top 10 or so. There are a few people who I think get lumped in with the whole punk rock thing, but who are much better than that. I think he was one of those people. He could really write a song. His sad songs are just so sad. I'm in awe of that.
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Old 02.24.2007, 07:40 PM   #5
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To be 'still' considered 'cool' would be implying that Johnny Thunders was, at one time or another, considered 'cool' prior to this point in time. Please, enlighten me as to when that was.
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Old 02.24.2007, 07:49 PM   #6
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To be 'still' considered 'cool' would be implying that Johnny Thunders was, at one time or another, considered 'cool' prior to this point in time. Please, enlighten me as to when that was.

Wow, you really are a prick aren't you?
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Old 02.24.2007, 07:52 PM   #7
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To be 'still' considered 'cool' would be implying that Johnny Thunders was, at one time or another, considered 'cool' prior to this point in time. Please, enlighten me as to when that was.

I do not know where you live. You almost had me fooled that it was Missouri with the whole "meth lab" thing. I'm just going to assume it isn't St. Louis or the surrounding areas. A lot of the local sort of bands that I've gone to see in the past few years are really supportive of the whole Johnny Thunders thing...whatever you call it. I don't know if it's as prevalent in other places in the midwest or what. I'd be curious to find out.

Other than that, I don't really want to comment on anyone's coolness or lack thereof.
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Old 02.24.2007, 07:53 PM   #8
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Wow, you really are a prick aren't you?

I blame Cat Power. Deep sigh.
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Old 02.24.2007, 07:58 PM   #9
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I do not know where you live. You almost had me fooled that it was Missouri with the whole "meth lab" thing. I'm just going to assume it isn't St. Louis or the surrounding areas. A lot of the local sort of bands that I've gone to see in the past few years are really supportive of the whole Johnny Thunders thing...whatever you call it. I don't know if it's as prevalent in other places in the midwest or what. I'd be curious to find out.

Other than that, I don't really want to comment on anyone's coolness or lack thereof.

What the fuck is the 'whole Johnny Thunders thing..." and how do some shitty little local bands support it?

I'm from Minnesota. Recognize.
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Old 02.24.2007, 08:03 PM   #10
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What the fuck is the 'whole Johnny Thunders thing..." and how do some shitty little local bands support it?

I'm from Minnesota. Recognize.

Well you're in a mood today.

What do you think the "whole Johnny Thunders thing" means? Could it mean "most things related to Johnny Thunders?" Oh my gosh, I think it just might. The rest you can figure out for yourself, unless you're a dolt, which I really don't think you are.

Minnesota, then. I doubt the meth situation is as bad as it is in Missouri. You guys should try a little harder.
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Old 02.24.2007, 08:07 PM   #11
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i quite like the cat power. i've nver heard mr thunders either but either way it's not effected my ear for a jingle. ho ho ho. was he as good as mik n keith? either way the main word is fecking 'WAS' bah. back in the day eh

He did better solo work than either Mick or Keith. A lot of people prefer him solo over the Dolls. Whereas I don't think anyone prefers Mick or Keith solo over their band, Whatsitcalled.
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Old 02.24.2007, 08:07 PM   #12
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Well you're in a mood today.

What do you think the "whole Johnny Thunders thing" means? Could it mean "most things related to Johnny Thunders?" Oh my gosh, I think it just might. The rest you can figure out for yourself, unless you're a dolt, which I really don't think you are.

Minnesota, then. I doubt the meth situation is as bad as it is in Missouri. You guys should try a little harder.

Cant.

Oh, dear. We could out-meth you any day of the week.
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Cant.


Mendicant.
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According to this:

Minnesota
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 85

Missouri
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 70

Minnesota wins. However, Nebraska is higher than both.

Nebraska
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 99

We win.
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Old 02.24.2007, 08:24 PM   #17
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I understood that it was Johnny Thunders related but I'm still unaware of how some bands from Missouri 'support' that. That's like saying I support Xiu Xiu and Cat Power. I like them, yes. I support them? I'm not sure. That sounds like a chore.

Oh, dear. We could out-meth you any day of the week.

It's not really a chore to support someone who's dead. Supporting Sonic Youth on the other hand, that's a chore. Although you could make the argument that they are also, in fact, dead.

Anyway, it's more like when I go to these concerts I always end up talking to people who are massive Johnny Thunders fans. And the groups themselves who have albums of original material out will still play Johnny Thunders songs upon request. I call that support, in a way. All of these people may like other things as well, but I don't know what those things are.
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Old 02.24.2007, 08:27 PM   #18
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According to this:

Minnesota
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 85

Missouri
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 70

Minnesota wins. However, Nebraska is higher than both.

Nebraska
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 99

We win.

Are you able to look up statistics for individual counties? Because ever since I can remember, the DARE cops have always told us that Franklin County (MO) has the biggest meth problem out of all US counties. I've never thought to question that--I just believed it because of the overwhelming evidence of it that I've seen.
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According to this:

Minnesota
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 85

Missouri
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 70

Minnesota wins. However, Nebraska is higher than both.

Nebraska
Meth treatment admissions per 100,000 residents: 99

We win.

Nebraska's full of quitters. Our meth heads don't go to treatment.
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