[Пятхъдесят Шест]

http://www.ketv.com/politics/8673309/detail.html
This may just be rubbish to many of you, but it has gained national attention.

The Nebraska legislature passed a bill today that literally segregates the cities schools. Basically they have split the city into three districts, North Omaha (large black community), South Omaha (a mix of white and hispanics) and West Omaha (lily White suburbia). There in preventing the rich white kids in West Omaha from being exposed to criminal blacks, illegal hispanics and white trash. Absolute paranoia. Shame on my city.

[val-holla-ing]

ugh. just ugh.

[samuel]

Well, it seems that it's based on location.
I haven't read the article yet; I'm just going by what you've said.
The city segregated itself.
The blacks chose to live with the blacks, the hispanics with hispanics, and white with whites.
It doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Let me read the article.

[Пятхъдесят Шест]

Sure its based on location. But mostly money, and white parents afraid of inner city kids attending their schools.

[khchris]

It has EVERYTHING to do with geographical location.

I'm moving to Omaha!

[qprogeny79]

Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест

Sure its based on location. But mostly money, and white parents afraid of inner city kids attending their schools.

can you blame them?

unless we teach our inner-city black youth that a) they are not inherently inferior by mere virtue of the amount of melanin in their skin, and b) that, conversely, neither are they superior for that reason alone, and consequently they deserve no special privileges or different treatment because of the circumstances of their birth -- then, and only then, will we rid ourselves of the scourge of crime, poverty, and lack of education surrounding the black community today, and only then will we honestly be able to live together in peace. we seriously need everyone -- black, white, hispanic, asian, green with pink polka dots -- to understand that they are individuals, and that no one should be treated any differently except in virtue of differences in one's own personal character.

and, by the way, that is the most profoundly ANTI-racist remark anyone could possibly make.

[samuel]

nicely said, qprogeny

[atari 2600]

but as an self-described Objectivist, qprogeny79, why would you care at all? Honestly, your post sounds rather phony & hollow to me. Now I do believe one should help a drowning man unlike Ayn Rand does. However, if hypothetically, Ayn Rand herself were drowning before my very eyes I would relish the opportunity to stand by & cheer & perhaps dance a jig.

Race is determined by geographical ancestry. The part of race that is culturally instilled will always be there unless true free enterprise, representation & truly equitable justice under the law are restored. On top of that it's going to take time...lots & lots of time. Only then will there be a chance for ignorance & apathy to be overcome.

Let me make it clear that I most definitely am concerned & that what we see happening in Omaha is yet more of the same rotten fruits of puffed-up Republican pride coming to bear.

[thewall91]

Now I do believe one should help a drowning man unlike Ayn Rand does. However, if hypothetically, Ayn Rand herself were drowning before my very eyes I would relish the opportunity to stand by & cheer & perhaps dance a jig.

didn't phil collins write a song about that????

[khchris]

Originally Posted by thewall91

didn't phil collins write a song about that????

Was it "I don't care anymore"?

I don't think it was "sussudio" but I could be wrong

[youthoftomorrow]

my painting teacher lived in Omaha when she was young.

[thewall91]

I was specifically alluding to the urban legend surrounding this song, but sometimes i type things for my own entertainment and i guess i can't expect anyone else to be in on the joke:

"Well, if you told me you were drowning
I would not lend a hand
I've seen your face before my friend
But I don't know if you know who I am
Well, I was there and I saw what you did
I saw it with my own two eyes
So you can wipe off the grin, I know where you've been
It's all been a pack of lies
And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord
I've been waiting for this moment for all my life, Oh Lord
I can feel it in the air tonight, Oh Lord, Oh Lord
And I've been waiting for this moment all my life, Oh Lord, Oh Lord
Well I remember, I remember don't worry
How could I ever forget, it's the first time, the last time we ever met
But I know the reason why you keep your silence up, no you don't fool me
The hurt doesn't show, but the pain still grows
It's no stranger to you or me

[ricechex]

Originally Posted by qprogeny79

can you blame them?

unless we teach our inner-city black youth that a) they are not inherently inferior by mere virtue of the amount of melanin in their skin, and b) that, conversely, neither are they superior for that reason alone, and consequently they deserve no special privileges or different treatment because of the circumstances of their birth -- then, and only then, will we rid ourselves of the scourge of crime, poverty, and lack of education surrounding the black community today, and only then will we honestly be able to live together in peace. we seriously need everyone -- black, white, hispanic, asian, green with pink polka dots -- to understand that they are individuals, and that no one should be treated any differently except in virtue of differences in one's own personal character.

and, by the way, that is the most profoundly ANTI-racist remark anyone could possibly make.

Conversly, let's make sure we teach equality to suburban white's too.. and actually practice equality. It's a white power base, so it's vital they get that message.

Segregated schools sucks. It's just wrong.

[val-holla-ing]

Originally Posted by samuel

Well, it seems that it's based on location.
I haven't read the article yet; I'm just going by what you've said.
The city segregated itself.
The blacks chose to live with the blacks, the hispanics with hispanics, and white with whites.
It doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Let me read the article.

i hardly believe that in these areas anyone is chosing to live in their respective areas. i'm willing to place my money on the notion that the poorer "inner city" inhabitants live where they do because they can't afford to live anywhere else. it is a big deal because it's creating an even larger educational gap between those who attend these higher funded schools with better prepared teachers and those who have coaches to teach every subject (read: ill prepared teachers).

[Amaranth]

i went to middle school (5th and 6th) at a magnet school. it was built in the inner city. the school was predominantly spanish speaking/bilingual (75 %).

it is more commen for kids to attend schools closest to where they live, and often times where people live is segragated, but not always.

i have been to omaha for my flight. i was visiting my boyfriends relatives in sioux city. there are other ethnic groups, too like native americans (often times they prefer to call themselves indians) and asians. it seems most often that these groups are not accounted for.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест

http://www.ketv.com/politics/8673309/detail.html
This may just be rubbish to many of you, but it has gained national attention.

The Nebraska legislature passed a bill today that literally segregates the cities schools. Basically they have split the city into three districts, North Omaha (large black community), South Omaha (a mix of white and hispanics) and West Omaha (lily White suburbia). There in preventing the rich white kids in West Omaha from being exposed to criminal blacks, illegal hispanics and white trash. Absolute paranoia. Shame on my city.

quite frankly i am glad. its about time someone did something about those meddling middle class white kids.

[Amaranth]

ok, i just read the article. again, this article is making it seem like this never happens, but it happens all of the time, usually because of location of schools and who lives where the schools are built. the problem is much bigger than schools. prisons are soooo segragated, by the choice of the inmates. they segragate theselves. then again those are criminals, so i would imagine the morale is different.

i am sure they could build the schools in a more central location that people from many areas could attend. i am sure there are lots of places schools could be built that everyone could take a bus to. why not?

[truncated]

Before I throw my two cents in, does anyone have more background information on this issue? For example, upon what was the decision to create new districts based?

[ricechex]

I believe it is based on the notion of segregation as a positive, in that the education system can focus more on the problems of the inner city i.e.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by Пятхъдесят Шест

http://www.ketv.com/politics/8673309/detail.html
This may just be rubbish to many of you, but it has gained national attention.

The Nebraska legislature passed a bill today that literally segregates the cities schools. Basically they have split the city into three districts, North Omaha (large black community), South Omaha (a mix of white and hispanics) and West Omaha (lily White suburbia). There in preventing the rich white kids in West Omaha from being exposed to criminal blacks, illegal hispanics and white trash. Absolute paranoia. Shame on my city.

Nobody deserves to be exposed to white trash.

On the serious side, that is pretty ridiculous, but I'm sure it is hugely common.