[ilduclo]

Let's discuss religion and "spirituality" here.

Starting off, I think it's a totally random universe. No good, no evil behind things, I think both of these are human attributes/'splainations for things we do not understand or are skeerd of..

[Severian]

I believe in Superman, but I understand that Superman almost certainly does not exist and has never existed. I would never try to make anyone believe that Superman does exist, because not even I believe this definitively; rather, I stubbornly hope he does, and I consider that hope to be a form of belief.

I understand that I am making a choice to believe in something that I have no logical reason to believe in. I apply the inverse of the falsifiability principle to my spiritual beliefs, and I maintain that in order for something to be truly knowable, it must be testable and subject to negative proof. Humans do not, at this juncture, possess the information to falsify Superman, so staunchly denying Superman’s existence would be anti-scientific.

I am open to all new information, and I hope someday someone has enough information to definitively say that Superman does or does not exist.

In short, I am an optimistic agnostic. Or Kryptonian Orthodox. Whatevs.

For more, check out my tirades in the Trump thread.

[!@#$%!]

been staring from the outside waiting for a shitstorm but nothing.

anyway, ex-catholic here. buddhist sympathizer-- not in the religious sense but in the "philosophical" sense not in the western "philosophy" sense but yeah plenty of well developed ideas. i don't "believe" in it but rather find myself in agreement with a lot.

found this little chart the other day.

 

clearly i'm not ready to practice the whole of it but some of it just makes so much sense and notice how there is no santa claus there, except maybe the "cessation of suffering" which is a great concept that gets to the real meat of the problem.

reasonable stuff there for the most part, mostly practical. hocus-pocus not required.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

been staring from the outside waiting for a shitstorm but nothing.

anyway, ex-catholic here. buddhist sympathizer-- not in the religious sense but in the "philosophical" sense not in the western "philosophy" sense but yeah plenty of well developed ideas. i don't "believe" in it but rather find myself in agreement with a lot.

found this little chart the other day.

 

clearly i'm not ready to practice the whole of it but some of it just makes so much sense and notice how there is no santa claus there, except maybe the "cessation of suffering" which is a great concept that gets to the real meat of the problem.

reasonable stuff there for the most part, mostly practical. hocus-pocus not required.

My Superman thing requires no hocus-pocus. It’s basically like having an imaginary friend that you hope, somehow, might someday not be imaginary. Mine involves Kuhn, so... pretty practical.

Anyway, I have respect for Buddhist philosophies. But I’d never be a Buddhist, because it — like being anything — requires that you insist to know the unknowable.

I’m an ex-catholic too. But I honestly don’t see why anyone needs religion. Keep your beliefs in your mind and that should be good. It’s good enough for me anyway. I don’t see any need to gather with people that “believe” (don’t not believe) the same thing. Just another unnecessary division between human beings.

[evollove]

"Buddhism? Ha! Who worships a statue of some fat guy in a chinese restaurant? Retards."

-Richard Dawkins

jk

[Bytor Peltor]

A 15 member team of LDS helped muck out my stepdads flood damaged home a few weeks ago. They were so efficient in how they worked, everyone had a role and did their jobs well.

The entire time, I kept thinking about their "magical underwear" that blocks lustfull thoughts and wondered if it worked the same as lead blocking the effects of kryptonite?


The Curse Of The Black Skin

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

I believe in Superman

This reminds me of something that's been keeping me awake at night (sorry if it's already been discussed on the movies thread or the comic books thread) — in Batman v Superman, Gotham and Metropolis are just the width of a river apart. We know Gotham is New York, SO... Metropolis is Joizy?

[Rob Instigator]

I feel organized religion is the last great superstition of humanity, keeping us all separate, and maintaining the beliefs/deluded fucking idiocy/dogma that "WE WHO BELIEVE CORRECTLY" are special and "THEY WHO DO NOT" are NOT, and as soon as we are rid of it forever and ever we will arise and evolve into a true humanity.

If we do not, we will destroy ourselves, and hopefully not take the rest of the biosphere with us.

My motto when it comes to all this bullshit is,

YOUR BELIEFS DO NOT APPLY TO ANYONE BUT YOU

[Severian]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

This reminds me of something that's been keeping me awake at night (sorry if it's already been discussed on the movies thread or the comic books thread) — in Batman v Superman, Gotham and Metropolis are just the width of a river apart. We know Gotham is New York, SO... Metropolis is Joizy?

Actually, according to a (really stupid and unrealistic) map made by DC, Gotham is actually in New Jersey, and Metropolis is in Connecticut. Oh, and Metropolis only has 77,000 people in it.... so, it’s the population of a moderately sized college town, and categorically NOT a metropolis. Same map says Gotham has like 700,000 people, which makes no sense either.

Anyway, they are supposed to be close to each other, and the geography in the comics has changed, but Gotham isn’t *actually* New York. It’s a New York, uhh, proxy. And at first it didn’t even exist and Batman WAS located in New York, but now it exists in a universe where it’s a monstrous city and it exists alongside New York. Metropolis should be somewhere around Philadelphia. But really, both cities are “New York” for all intents and purposes. Y’dig?

Don’t pay attention to BvS for your DC/Superman/Batman mythology.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Severian

Actually, according to a (really stupid and unrealistic) map made by DC, Gotham is actually in New Jersey, and Metropolis is in Connecticut. Oh, and Metropolis only has 77,000 people in it.... so, it’s the population of a moderately sized college town, and categorically NOT a metropolis. Same map says Gotham has like 700,000 people, which makes no sense either.

Anyway, they are supposed to be close to each other, and the geography in the comics has changed, but Gotham isn’t *actually* New York. It’s a New York, uhh, proxy. And at first it didn’t even exist and Batman WAS located in New York, but now it exists in a universe where it’s a monstrous city and it exists alongside New York. Metropolis should be somewhere around Philadelphia. But really, both cities are “New York” for all intents and purposes. Y’dig?

Well this is just perverse.

[Rob Instigator]

Metropolis and Gotham are stand ins for NYC. Those names were created back in the 30's when using actual locations in the real world was not something you did regularly in comics. DC has a history of making up stupid city names for their heroes. The Flash lives in Capital City fr instance.
When Spiderman was created in the 60's Marvel was dedicated to being more realistic, so they set the teenage spiderman as being a New Yorker through and through.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Metropolis and Gotham are stand ins for NYC. Those names were created back in the 30's when using actual locations in the real world was not something you did regularly in comics. DC has a history of making up stupid city names for their heroes. The Flash lives in Capital City fr instance.
When Spiderman was created in the 60's Marvel was dedicated to being more realistic, so they set the teenage spiderman as being a New Yorker through and through.

The Flash does not live in “Capital City.” What?
Central City! Blargh!

Also, you’re wrong because Batman was originally written as living in “New York City.” Also, see locations of the Shadow and other pre-Superman heroes. If anything, DC’s use of stand-ins was unique.

And it’s Spider-Man. Not “Spiderman.” He’s not a dentist. Sooo... yeah.

[Severian]

Just pretend Rob didn’t post and read my post instead. And consult me about dumb comic book stuff because I am clearly the guy who knows the most dumb ass shit.

[Rob Instigator]

you quoting 1930's hahaha

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

you quoting 1930's hahaha

I don’t get this but I assume it’s a dig, so all I have to say is: it’s “1930s” not “1930’s.”

[!@#$%!]

so what year was superman born after all?

and how long did the fucking trip from krypton take?

if you’re gonna have a religion around it you gotta set up a calendar and all that

[Severian]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

so what year was superman born after all?

and how long did the fucking trip from krypton take?

if you’re gonna have a religion around it you gotta set up a calendar and all that

Wow, this is actually pretty good, productive feedback on Kryptonian Orthodox. I’ll have to review some “historical” documents and run some numbers, but I’m determined to get an answer for this. And I’m not even kind of kidding.

[!@#$%!]

don’t forget the high holidays

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

don’t forget the high holidays

The Feast of Tabernacles was observed earlier this month......pretty sure it ended on the full moon.

The Gospel According To Marvel

 

[Savage Clone]

I like that the religion thread wound up being more about the equally real Comic Book universe.
Nicely done!