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Old 08.16.2007, 01:39 AM   #1
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So where do you think innovative music is being made right now? I just want to know so I can have some pointers.
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Old 08.16.2007, 01:49 AM   #2
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right now it's hard to say. one really good band that i'm pretty sure are from england (at least the singer is) is thee heavenly music association.
i'll upload their album in awhile.
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Old 08.16.2007, 01:55 AM   #3
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I think it is pretty equal. Some of my favorite bands are from England, but some of my favorite bands are also from the US. It seems 50/50 to me.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:04 AM   #4
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led zeppelin blatantly ripped off from american blues artists, the stones are a different story. they eventually cultivated their own sound, not necessarily based on the old blues (like zeppelin did) but i guess influenced by it more or less. their early work is obviously influenced by all that old stuff, but later on they kind of came into their own. am i making myself clear enough? the stones sound like...the stones. zeppelin sound more like rip offs. not to say that they weren't good because i do like them.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:10 AM   #5
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basically, almost everything that's "the best" comes from japan (I'm not a Japan freak, and I hate a lot of things about their culture; but technology- and entertainment-wise, they got it down)... so yeah, the best music also comes from japan... I mean, their normal "rock" bands over their are what we call "math rock" here! And just check out their ele ctronic music there.. wow.. Japan has so many forward-thinking and downright brilliant bands it's not even funny.. England has also always been great for electronic music... so, indeed, "that side" of the pond is the best..
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:16 AM   #6
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I do think England has better Electronica music.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:17 AM   #7
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i agree with ya. the stones most def. created their own sound (i think zep did too, but im not even going to attempt defending that one cause i totally understand how it would be easy to dissagree with me), but i dont think they woulda been shit if they woulda started out as a band doing that sorta sound. the brits WANTED to hear the blues. thats why they freaked out when hendriz went over their, he was embraced over their as being a "real american bluesman", to where as here in the US, the "real american bluesman" didnt acknowledge him as such. least, most of them didnt.

thats one things thats awesome about them over there though, they seem to embrace new/innovative stuff before we do. however, the stuff they are ussualy embracing more or less comes from here. a band from america attempting to "create a new sound" or whatever, probablly has a far better chance of making it in england before he does in the united states (that includes new york...and of course, depends on ones intepretation on what "making it as a band" actually means).
"making it" is pretty hard to define because if you know the right people it's not that difficult to get a record out, however, it is difficult to get enough press and promotion to actually sell enough copies and tour successfully enough to make any money.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:18 AM   #8
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also, japan has better dolls, right canta?
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:19 AM   #9
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also, japan has better dolls, right canta?
england has come out with some pretty cool shit in that department (in the 50s they made extremely creepy looking rubber babydolls..) but yeah. japan has a lot to offer in my opinion.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:24 AM   #10
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:30 AM   #11
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Ive gotta say USA and I dont think its as close as everyone here is making it out to be...no offense to the brits, theyve made some dandy tunes...but in terms of absolutely unique artists that will most likely never be replicated, its USA in spades...and no, this is not a "who's made better electronica" thread.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:32 AM   #12
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I agree with you dave, as unique artist, the U.S. have made more than the brits.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:39 AM   #13
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I like music from all over the world. I could care less which country with similar population produces the most hits or whatever.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:39 AM   #14
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yeah...bob dylan, captain beefheart, all our jazz and folk i think will never be equaled...and then even regarding modern artists, i dont think the brits have as many that stand out as america, and they dont have any boredoms or any one "superpower" that i can think of to help even it out...
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:47 AM   #15
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i forgot to mention:
we here in america have a band full of ugly jewish men that spits blood and fire.
 
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:49 AM   #16
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I vote for UK, US, Germany, Italy, Japan and Australia, all in equal measures.

America does lead a lot of trends, but without necessarily being innovative.
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Old 08.16.2007, 02:54 AM   #17
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Old 08.16.2007, 03:04 AM   #18
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Just to go off-topic a little: Is ANYONE actually being all that innovative in music these days? Most "new" music these days is rehashing or modernising music from the late 1960s (folk), mid 1970s (noise/industrial), or early 1980s (post-punk/no wave). There doesn't seem to be anything going on that is totally without precedent.
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Old 08.16.2007, 03:04 AM   #19
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i belive that only two are jewish
but, maybe not with those who spit blood and fire, but there are plenty of american bands with ugly jewish men. so if thats all it takes, we should win by a landlide...

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Old 08.16.2007, 03:06 AM   #20
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i belive that only two are jewish
but, maybe not with those who spit blood and fire, but there are plenty of american bands with ugly jewish men. so if thats all it takes, we should win by a landlide...
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do david lee roth and art garfunkel spit fire or blood? i think not.
not to mention that kiss wins by a landslide just because paul stanley is possibly the ugliest man on the planet.
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