How can i start an article about Kim?

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:21 PM

i made this article, which is more like an essay, about kim; the first paragraph i used for it got rejected like a million times, it originally said that most female bass players were important but minor players in the bands they were but that kim actually is the more visual member of the band and one of it's most important members.

the rest of the article deals with kim's presence in sy, her inspirations in art and music, her experimental nature, her impact as being crucial in the band's adoption of lowbrow/high brow art into sy's music, her influence on female artists of all strains and her liberation of artists to pursue other projects in the same or other disciplines.

but i need an intro, i need this done by now. please, give me ideas.

!@#$%! · 10.01.2007, 11:29 PM

start by declaring your hatred of leftist feminism, ha ha ha.

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:31 PM

i don't hate leftist feminism.

i do hate dogma and narrowmindness.

!@#$%! · 10.01.2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

i don't hate leftist feminism.

i do hate dogma and narrowmindness.

good luck!

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:34 PM

ohh yeah, i also hate extreme fundamentalism too.

i think i'll go play bikini kill's the singles now.

alyasa · 10.01.2007, 11:35 PM

Then state that in the history of feminism, narrowmindedness has always been common and that there have been many who fought to fight oppression and narrowmindedness, but none of them have ever quite been so cool, hip or culturally in tune as Ms. Kim Gordon.

!@#$%! · 10.01.2007, 11:36 PM

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word:
fuck
the word is love

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word:
fuck
the word is
love

there's a new girl in your life
long red wavy hair
green green lips and purple eyes
skinny hips and big brown breasts
hanging on your wall
one end slit the other's ripped

support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word
fuck
the word is love

support the power of women
use the flower of man

use the power of women
use the word
fuck
the word is love
use the word
support the power of women
use the power of man
support the flower of women
use the word
fuck

the word is love

use the word
fuck

----

^^ i don't know about you, but i personally prefer suck my left one.

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:38 PM

that's cool, but i tried to avoid sexism on the article.

the fact is, you get into feminism and you start messing with a lot of controversy (especially being a man) and, also, the other subject matters were given the "sex goddess" treatment by the other journalists and i hate that, to be honest.

!@#$%! · 10.01.2007, 11:40 PM

yea.

ok.

first line:

"i really much prefer right-wing cock rock, but..."

alyasa · 10.01.2007, 11:41 PM

Then you could mention in rock there are not many female iconic figures, or role models for girls to look up to in rock music, Sure, there's Bjork or Lindsay Lohan, but they don't rock. Then, Bam! Here Comes Empress Kim Gordon... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:42 PM

give it up, i really need to do this.

!@#$%! · 10.01.2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa

... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...

yes. instead of bam write wham!

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa

Then you could mention in rock there are not many female iconic figures, or role models for girls to look up to in rock music, Sure, there's Bjork or Lindsay Lohan, but they don't rock. Then, Bam! Here Comes Empress Kim Gordon... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam...

probably...i'm going a different route and see how it goes, i'll probably work your idea too, might as well have some options.

thanks!

scott v · 10.01.2007, 11:48 PM

I dunno why but this thread just reminded me how this past weekend i scored a copy of an issue of Artforum January 1983, that includes an article called "i'm really scared when i kill in my dreams" written by Kim, detailing the nyc no-wave music scene and the brief but detailed experience of a live PIL show that practically turned into a riot (i actually have a friend who attended that show) the article has cool photos of Branca. if i can get it scanned i'll try to post it.

Everyneurotic · 10.01.2007, 11:50 PM

i mentioned kim's articles in artform and such but that version got rejected.

would love to see the scans.

alyassa: i can't use your idea as two of the other subject matters are patti smith and pj harvey.

SynthethicalY · 10.02.2007, 12:11 AM

Write about her ideas from early on, to now. How they have changed, or progressed into different areas. Music, Film, Art. But I think you already did this with your body.

alyasa · 10.02.2007, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

i mentioned kim's articles in artform and such but that version got rejected.

would love to see the scans.

alyassa: i can't use your idea as two of the other subject matters are patti smith and pj harvey.

You can, because the two of them are also female rock icons. And they are about as mainstream as you can go for female rock icons...

Georgekrz · 10.02.2007, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v

I dunno why but this thread just reminded me how this past weekend i scored a copy of an issue of Artforum January 1983, that includes an article called "i'm really scared when i kill in my dreams" written by Kim, detailing the nyc no-wave music scene and the brief but detailed experience of a live PIL show that practically turned into a riot (i actually have a friend who attended that show) the article has cool photos of Branca. if i can get it scanned i'll try to post it.

please do it.

also to o/p, in the opening paragraph you politely tell the editor to go fuck himself...

Everyneurotic · 10.02.2007, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY

Write about her ideas from early on, to now. How they have changed, or progressed into different areas. Music, Film, Art. But I think you already did this with your body.

i did that for my first version, mentioned most of her bands, her expositions, her acting, clothes designs, etc. and my editor told me it looked like i ripped it off from wikipedia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Georgekrz

...also to o/p, in the opening paragraph you politely tell the editor to go fuck himself...

believe me, that's what i've been wanting to do for the past couple of weeks.

pbradley · 10.02.2007, 12:42 AM

Talk about how her name backwards is Nodrog Mik and how cool that is.

10.01.2007, 11:21 PM	#1
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i made this article, which is more like an essay, about kim; the first paragraph i used for it got rejected like a million times, it originally said that most female bass players were important but minor players in the bands they were but that kim actually is the more visual member of the band and one of it's most important members. the rest of the article deals with kim's presence in sy, her inspirations in art and music, her experimental nature, her impact as being crucial in the band's adoption of lowbrow/high brow art into sy's music, her influence on female artists of all strains and her liberation of artists to pursue other projects in the same or other disciplines. but i need an intro, i need this done by now. please, give me ideas. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.01.2007, 11:29 PM	#2
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	start by declaring your hatred of leftist feminism, ha ha ha.
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10.01.2007, 11:31 PM	#3
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i don't hate leftist feminism. i do hate dogma and narrowmindness. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.01.2007, 11:34 PM	#5
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	ohh yeah, i also hate extreme fundamentalism too. i think i'll go play bikini kill's the singles now. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.01.2007, 11:35 PM	#6
alyasa invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,791	Then state that in the history of feminism, narrowmindedness has always been common and that there have been many who fought to fight oppression and narrowmindedness, but none of them have ever quite been so cool, hip or culturally in tune as Ms. Kim Gordon. __________________ Sab Kuch Tick Tock Hai
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10.01.2007, 11:36 PM	#7
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	support the power of women use the power of man support the flower of women use the word: fuck the word is love support the power of women use the power of man support the flower of women use the word: fuck the word is love there's a new girl in your life long red wavy hair green green lips and purple eyes skinny hips and big brown breasts hanging on your wall one end slit the other's ripped support the power of women use the power of man support the flower of women use the word fuck the word is love support the power of women use the flower of man use the power of women use the word fuck the word is love use the word support the power of women use the power of man support the flower of women use the word fuck the word is love use the word fuck ---- ^^ i don't know about you, but i personally prefer suck my left one.
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10.01.2007, 11:38 PM	#8
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	that's cool, but i tried to avoid sexism on the article. the fact is, you get into feminism and you start messing with a lot of controversy (especially being a man) and, also, the other subject matters were given the "sex goddess" treatment by the other journalists and i hate that, to be honest. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.01.2007, 11:40 PM	#9
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	yea. ok. first line: "i really much prefer right-wing cock rock, but..."
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10.01.2007, 11:41 PM	#10
alyasa invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,791	Then you could mention in rock there are not many female iconic figures, or role models for girls to look up to in rock music, Sure, there's Bjork or Lindsay Lohan, but they don't rock. Then, Bam! Here Comes Empress Kim Gordon... Of course, I don't think you should write Bam... __________________ Sab Kuch Tick Tock Hai
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10.01.2007, 11:42 PM	#11
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	give it up, i really need to do this. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.01.2007, 11:48 PM	#14
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	I dunno why but this thread just reminded me how this past weekend i scored a copy of an issue of Artforum January 1983, that includes an article called "i'm really scared when i kill in my dreams" written by Kim, detailing the nyc no-wave music scene and the brief but detailed experience of a live PIL show that practically turned into a riot (i actually have a friend who attended that show) the article has cool photos of Branca. if i can get it scanned i'll try to post it.
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10.01.2007, 11:50 PM	#15
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i mentioned kim's articles in artform and such but that version got rejected. would love to see the scans. alyassa: i can't use your idea as two of the other subject matters are patti smith and pj harvey. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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10.02.2007, 12:11 AM	#16
SynthethicalY invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,408	Write about her ideas from early on, to now. How they have changed, or progressed into different areas. Music, Film, Art. But I think you already did this with your body.
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10.02.2007, 12:42 AM	#20
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Talk about how her name backwards is Nodrog Mik and how cool that is.
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