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Old 01.04.2008, 11:54 PM   #1
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It's interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVMpo
Definately the best one.

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1984 is coming. George Orwell just predicted a little early.
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Old 01.05.2008, 04:52 PM   #2
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i have seen it's coming for a good 15 or so years now that I have been actively paying attention and it scares me. the time for revolution is now
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Old 01.05.2008, 05:28 PM   #3
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Old 01.05.2008, 06:54 PM   #5
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everyone who believes this is a stoner. seriously the only people who ever tell me about this are well-known potheads
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Old 01.05.2008, 08:11 PM   #6
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everyone who believes this is a stoner. seriously the only people who ever tell me about this are well-known potheads

Agreed, these nutjobs always make me laugh.
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Old 01.05.2008, 08:14 PM   #7
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Old 01.05.2008, 08:29 PM   #8
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have you ever considered ignoring the propaganda and thinking maybe the stoners are on to something? all the stuff about religion and christianity is spot on
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Old 01.05.2008, 08:32 PM   #9
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Well religion will always try and do something. But this is not.
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Old 01.05.2008, 09:07 PM   #10
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have you ever considered ignoring the propaganda and thinking maybe the stoners are on to something? all the stuff about religion and christianity is spot on

Conspiracy theories are just like religions. The only difference is that all the Gods are malevolant.

Yes the world is a bunch of shit, but the guiding force is chaos and human nature in a sort of socio-economic-corporate-political darwinism. The people with the money and power are naturally on the top of the food chain, and they make day to day decisions to give themselves more money and power. If GWB and co started investing money into apple, google, and all the like, I wouldn't see it as "giving more power to mass media, the opiate of the masses" so much as "rich fucks looking to ride a growing industry and become richer fucks."

The revolution, as it stands, isn't against some group of clockmakers, but against ourselves.
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Old 01.05.2008, 09:19 PM   #11
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America has been governed by fear for a long time now, and also has tried to govern the whole world by force. It is easy for anyone out side of the USA to look at how screwed up the country is because it is on the news all the time. Travelling also shows this. Both in Berlin and Paris, the only national embassies guarded by heavily armed soldiers was the American ones. Alot, and by alot I mean millions and millions, probably billions of people world wide do not like what the USA government has done to the world.

On the education front: australian public schools have been run by the government for decades and decades and if you go by that little bit of agi-prop those lists put australia high up on the international scale, but that then leaves us with a conundrum.... smart nation / government schools.....

and hayden i think you might have misunderstood 1984 when you read it, orwell wasn't writing about a time in the future, he was writing about what he was living through. propaganda really came to the fore in WWII and is here to stay.

these doco's are no different to how the mass media operates, in fact it is using a mass media transmission and the same sort of fear tactics that the governments have been using for a long time, the only difference is it says think for yourself.

spend less time on you tube and more time reading about the political doctrines of governments and ideologues from credible sources.

and if you aren't from america and you are going to travel make sure you label your bags with the flag of your nation or wear a little pin or something, people will treat you better.....
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People usually don't assume I'm American by looking at me.
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People don't think I'm American when I travel until they talk to me.

the only americans i ever seem to come across when i travel are big fat tourists that don't even try and speak the language of the country they are in. at hotels in both france and germany my partner and i were asked if we were american, obviously we replied no because we are not and the clerks responses were and I quote "das gute das gute" and in france "bonne".
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Old 01.05.2008, 09:54 PM   #14
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Conspiracy theories are just like religions. The only difference is that all the Gods are malevolant.

Yes the world is a bunch of shit, but the guiding force is chaos and human nature in a sort of socio-economic-corporate-political darwinism. The people with the money and power are naturally on the top of the food chain, and they make day to day decisions to give themselves more money and power. If GWB and co started investing money into apple, google, and all the like, I wouldn't see it as "giving more power to mass media, the opiate of the masses" so much as "rich fucks looking to ride a growing industry and become richer fucks."

The revolution, as it stands, isn't against some group of clockmakers, but against ourselves.

i fully agree
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Old 01.05.2008, 09:55 PM   #15
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Old 01.06.2008, 08:36 AM   #16
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The attempted manipulation of Americans through fear is nothing new but technology is making it a real possibility. The chip is interesting, I've always maintained that the elimination of cash would be the beginning of the end and a chip with all your financial data would suit that purpose. Cash = Freedom.
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Old 01.06.2008, 09:13 AM   #17
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I've always felt confused, and like something was happening I didn't know about...

This documentary is horseshit, for various reasons. I'm surprised that the conspiracy theorists have got to you Hayden. Now I'm the only person who knows the real truth [Americans - please, please note the irony here. I know you people aren't terrifically sharp, so I've pointed it out for your benefit]
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Old 01.06.2008, 12:00 PM   #18
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I don't really believe in the majority of this shit. It's just interesting. Yes. I been smoking weed.
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have you ever considered ignoring the propaganda and thinking maybe the stoners are on to something?

they always think they are on to something... just imagine for a second if stoners ran the newspapers/media of the world ...
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