[atari 2600]

Yep, intolerance & hatred is not solely an American commodity. It's hard to believe it really 2006.

articles
http://smart.tin.it/rancinis/mosca27-05-06.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5023466.stm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052700451.html

A young nationalist protester, shouts out anti-gay slogans outside the Kremlin in Moscow, Saturday, May 27, 2006. Police and nationalist protesters forcefully prevented Russian and foreign gay and lesbian rights activists from rallying Saturday in Moscow, where they had hoped to put on a display of gay pride despite the city government's vehement refusal to grant permission for a parade. (AP Photo/Mikhail Metzel)


Member of the German Bundestag Volker Beck (C) is led away by Russian riot police during a gay rights protest near Red Square Moscow May 27, 2006. Russian police, militant Orthodox Christians and neo-fascists broke up a first ever gay rights march in Moscow on Saturday, but the homosexuals claimed their short-lived protest as a 'great victory'. REUTERS/Konstantin Koutsyllo

 

article & first hand account
http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/2006may/2703.htm





MOSCOW, May 27, 2006 — The Mayor of Moscow said gay Pride would never happen while he was alive. He mobilised a quarter of the Moscow police, over 1,000 officers, to prevent the gay parade. Despite all his efforts, lesbian and gay Russians — and their international supporters — gathered by the Kremlin in Manezhnaya Square.
We were immediaely set-upon by about 100 facist thugs and religious fanatics who began pushing, punching and kicking us.
They snatched flowers out of our hands and abused us with chants of ‘No sodomy in Moscow’ and ‘Put the pederasts on the iron’ and ‘Russia is not Sodom’. We were pushed and carried like corks on a sea of fascist pushing and shoving.
Russian gay leader Nikolai Alekseev was arrested and put in a police van. The rest of us were forced out of Manezhnaya Square by lines of militia and police. Some individual protestors were surrounded, abused and attacked by gangs of fascisits.
Most of us re-assembled on the edge of Manezhnaya Square. Groups of roaming neo-Nazis stormed around the square looks for gays and lesbians to attack. We had to look inconspicuous to avoid being beaten.
Then, some of the fascists threw tear gas canisters and formed a line with the police to block our exit from Manezhnaya Square. A group of about 15 of us assembled and left by a different exit.
We then made our way throught the backstreets to the Yuri Dolgoruky monument where Moscow Gay Pride was due to reassemble and cross the road to city hall, where we were going to stage our protest for gay rights and against the the Mayor’s ban.
At the monument we met up with another 20 LGBT protestors. They had been attacked by fascists, but by the time we arrived the helmeted riot police had pushed them back into the Tverskaya Street.
Soon after reassembling at the monument, another line of riot police came and drove us out of the square, straight into an oncoming posse of fascists.
Fortunately, we were all in ones and twos — and they didn’t recognised us. Most of us got split up, but 15 of us managed to reassemble at the nearby Bar Gogol.
This first Moscow Pride took place, but not as we had planned it — thanks to the combined opposition of Mayor Yuri Luzhkov and the neo-Nazis. The Mayor’s homophobia created the atmosphere which gave a green light to the fascists to attack the Moscow Pride participants. The anti-gay violence and intimidation we experienced shows precisely why Moscow Pride is necessary.
The repression of a handful of lesbian and gay protestors signifies the fear and weakness of the Russian state. We had a moral and political victory, forcing the Moscow authorities to unleash forces of repression comparable with the bad old days of the Soviet era.
It is a back-handed compliment that the Moscow Mayor regards gay people as such a threat that we have to be banned and suppressed,’ said Mr. Tatchell

[krastian]

Get a life fuckers.

[Laila]

i don't speak about this issue

[TheDom]

Originally Posted by Laila

i don't speak about this issue

Then shut up.

[Laila]

i just know nothing about gay people cause i have never had a gay friend or known a gay person. so i don't know what they are like, therefore i don't talk about it cause i know nothing.

and yes being gay is not allowed in my religion but that has nothing to do with it cause i don't think it's allowed in any religion

[HaydenAsche]

Laila, don't type. Ever.

That's ridiculous. It isn't as bad as those stupid fucking funeral protestors though.

[krastian]

*Shakes head

[umjammer atomsk]

*Throws up all over monitor

[HaydenAsche]

I should add this. I am gay but I use the word 'fag' alot along with numerous other slurs against gay people. I don't really care. I just think protesting it no matter how wrong you think it is is completely stupid, not to mention pointless.

I like guys. You can't change that by saying 'God hates fags' and besides, I'm probably a way better christian than the majority of these people judging others and being complete idiots.

[alyasa]

(What's so funny 'bout)Peace, Love and Understanding?

As I walk through
This wicked world
Searchin' for light in the darkness of insanity.

I ask myself
Is all hope lost?
Is there only pain and hatred, and misery?

And each time I feel like this inside,
There's one thing I wanna know:
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? Ohhhh
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?

And as I walked on
Through troubled times
My spirit gets so downhearted sometimes
So where are the strong
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

'Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry.
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? Ohhhh
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?

So where are the strong?
And who are the trusted?
And where is the harmony?
Sweet harmony.

'Cause each time I feel it slippin' away, just makes me wanna cry.
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? Ohhhh
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding? Ohhhh
What's so funny 'bout peace love & understanding?

[Laila]

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I like guys. You can't change that by saying 'God hates fags' and besides, I'm probably a way better christian than the majority of these people judging others and being complete idiots.

i not trying to say anything religious in this this thread. i only added that thing about religion cause i was asked. and i don't think it's cause of my religion that i don't know gay people, it's probably because of where i live. Not many gay people around here, so i'm not going to have too much of an opinion on something that i have never been exposed too. but i did read what atari posted, and i don't think that telling someone not to be gay is going to change their mind, so i never understood why people even bother saying it.

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by Laila

i not trying to say anything religious in this this thread. i only added that thing about religion cause i was asked. and i don't think it's cause of my religion that i don't know gay people, it's probably because of where i live. Not many gay people around here, so i'm not going to have too much of an opinion on something that i have never been exposed too. but i did read what atari posted, and i don't think that telling someone not to be gay is going to change their mind, so i never understood why people even bother saying it.

I wasn't talking about or to you at all.

[atari 2600]

Originally Posted by Laila

i just know nothing about gay people cause i have never had a gay friend or known a gay person. so i don't know what they are like, therefore i don't talk about it cause i know nothing.

and yes being gay is not allowed in my religion but that has nothing to do with it cause i don't think it's allowed in any religion

to quote Savage Clone the other day, "fair enough"

i've known cool gay people & uncool gay people

they are people just like anyone else

[Laila]

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

I wasn't talking about or to you at all.

i was just responding to your post in general not exactly directly to you, so chill out.

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by Laila

i was just responding to your post in general not exactly directly to you, so chill out.

Then don't quote me.

[Laila]

i'll quote you if i want, you seem to have a knack for it yourself

[HaydenAsche]

Yes, idiot, but when I quote people I talk about the post. I don't randomly quote somebody and then start going off on something completely unrelated.

[atari 2600]

Laila, do you have any books on Sufism?

[Laila]

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche

Yes, idiot, but when I quote people I talk about the post. I don't randomly quote somebody and then start going off on something completely unrelated.

it was related. are you blind? you basically said that telling someone that it's a sin to be gay isnt' going to change them and i agreed. i really don't know why you are arguing.

no atari i don't. what's that?

[HaydenAsche]

Originally Posted by Laila

it was related. are you blind. you basically said that telling someone that it's a sin to be gay isnt' going to change them and i agreed. i really don't know why you are arguing.

So, my cat got caught in the dryer...