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Old 10.16.2008, 02:59 PM   #1
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Old 10.16.2008, 03:03 PM   #2
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Both. And when I say distorsion, I mean harsh distorsion.
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Old 10.16.2008, 03:04 PM   #3
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What?

All I know is that on my hollowbody my guitar feeds back like mad when I turn on fuzz, and then I can use my vibrola to sort of control the pitch.

It has its uses. It isn't super high squeely feedback, just really smooth creamy harmonically rich feedback, sort of the way a 7th or 12th fret harmonic on your lower pitch strings sounds.
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Old 10.16.2008, 03:37 PM   #4
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Neither.

I love bands who use clean guitars only.
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Old 10.16.2008, 03:43 PM   #5
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I like ceratin types of distortion, especially when the amplitude is right to my ear. My heart belongs to feedback, though.
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Old 10.16.2008, 04:07 PM   #6
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Amplifier feedback is the voice of God.
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Old 10.16.2008, 04:14 PM   #7
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Amplifier feedback is the voice of God.

It is one of the true innovations of modern music.
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Old 10.16.2008, 04:55 PM   #8
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I like strong melodies which are distorted (not distortion on its own).

I like feedback as an intro or outro to a good songs (I couldn't listen to it on its own for very long unless its modulated into a melody, i.e., Sunn 0))), Neil Young's Arc, some Sonic Youth SYR stuff)
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Old 10.16.2008, 06:44 PM   #9
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To me, feedback and distortion and dissonance make all music sound better, grimier, and more dangerous. Literally, I think even lush, beautiful, accoustic Folk music sounds better with feedback, ala Six Organs of Admittance. Hell, even Fahey's music benefitted from Distortion in the 90's. Of course, not all the music I listen to incorprates feedback, after all, Van Morrison and Game Theory are two of my top 15 all time favorite artists, it's just it seems for the past four years that I have been more attracted to atonality. This may just be a by-product of the fact that all conventional Pop and Rock music these days is garbage. Even the more conventional Pop-based bands in the semi-underground like Animal Collective and Abe Vigoda are incorporating some sort of wierd sounds and noise into thier eclectic sounds. I'm just saying, up untill four years ago I was all about Rock n Roll, music that was in song form, lots of riffs, etc. Classic Rock, Punk, Hardcore, Thrash, Extreme Metal, Indie (when there was such a thing), Surf, Folk and such is what I would listen to. Jazz is as far out as I went. But then, there just stopped being good Rock music. So, then I started hanging around Providence when I was 16-17, and WALA, I discovered art, wierd music, Noise ROCK, Lightning Bolt, Arab On Radar, etc.. I was intrigued by this amazing fucking sound right beneath my door step. Atonality in music also offered me a way to rebel. My parents are ultra liberal artsy-types, hell my dad's a musician and had me listen to Miles Davis for the first time when I was 7. So they would never get freaked out about how I dressed and who I hung out with and what I listened to, etc.. But when my brother and I started going to all these insane concerts and come home totally loaded with out one hundred new records from the merchandise stand thatd wed put on at full volume at 2 in the morning light a bong plug out instruments in and make a huge racket, well then my parents started to worry haha. Well, as you can see I am rambling about nothing (Weed), I will end by just saying at this point, FEEDBACK AND DISTORTION rule my life.
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Old 10.16.2008, 06:47 PM   #10
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Old 10.16.2008, 06:49 PM   #11
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the super fuzz or the big muff? or both?
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Old 10.16.2008, 08:42 PM   #12
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Both. It's like chocolate and peanut butter.
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Old 10.16.2008, 08:58 PM   #13
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both, but no overuse with either.

its like.. quality not quantity.
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Old 10.16.2008, 09:08 PM   #14
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both, but no overuse with either.

its like.. quality not quantity.

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Depends on the song...
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Old 10.16.2008, 09:09 PM   #16
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To me, feedback and distortion and dissonance make all music sound better, grimier, and more dangerous. Literally, I think even lush, beautiful, accoustic Folk music sounds better with feedback, ala Six Organs of Admittance. Hell, even Fahey's music benefitted from Distortion in the 90's. Of course, not all the music I listen to incorprates feedback, after all, Van Morrison and Game Theory are two of my top 15 all time favorite artists, it's just it seems for the past four years that I have been more attracted to atonality. This may just be a by-product of the fact that all conventional Pop and Rock music these days is garbage. Even the more conventional Pop-based bands in the semi-underground like Animal Collective and Abe Vigoda are incorporating some sort of wierd sounds and noise into thier eclectic sounds. I'm just saying, up untill four years ago I was all about Rock n Roll, music that was in song form, lots of riffs, etc. Classic Rock, Punk, Hardcore, Thrash, Extreme Metal, Indie (when there was such a thing), Surf, Folk and such is what I would listen to. Jazz is as far out as I went. But then, there just stopped being good Rock music. So, then I started hanging around Providence when I was 16-17, and WALA, I discovered art, wierd music, Noise ROCK, Lightning Bolt, Arab On Radar, etc.. I was intrigued by this amazing fucking sound right beneath my door step. Atonality in music also offered me a way to rebel. My parents are ultra liberal artsy-types, hell my dad's a musician and had me listen to Miles Davis for the first time when I was 7. So they would never get freaked out about how I dressed and who I hung out with and what I listened to, etc.. But when my brother and I started going to all these insane concerts and come home totally loaded with out one hundred new records from the merchandise stand thatd wed put on at full volume at 2 in the morning light a bong plug out instruments in and make a huge racket, well then my parents started to worry haha. Well, as you can see I am rambling about nothing (Weed), I will end by just saying at this point, FEEDBACK AND DISTORTION rule my life.
not to be a bitch but distortion/feedback does not equal atonality. id say that lightning bolt, at least most of their riffs are pretty tonal, and they dont incorporate too many dissonants, they are loud as fuck, but i'd say pretty tonal...
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not to be a bitch but distortion/feedback does not equal atonality. id say that lightning bolt, at least most of their riffs are pretty tonal, and they dont incorporate too many dissonants, they are loud as fuck, but i'd say pretty tonal...
shut the shit up, nothing i said was intended for controversey. and lightning bolt ain't always "tonal", structured always yeah, but have you heard a song like "mistake" on the s/t re-isse bonus tracks? there is nothing tonal about that track, just pure filth.
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Old 10.17.2008, 12:03 AM   #18
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Both. Feedback is a force of nature. It's a blissful thing. Distortion just makes things a little more interesting at times.

Also: Clean guitar, a little delay, lots of reverb=love.
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Old 10.17.2008, 01:07 AM   #19
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Either can be good when used well.
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I've no objection to either, but given the choice I prefer neither. I like to hear what's being played with clarity and control. A little sustain will do me just fine.
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