Ironic Pop

ruinedbyharps · 11.16.2008, 03:55 PM

Stuff like the Ting Tings and, well the Ting Tings. Isn't there enough decent pop about without people feeling the need to get excited over a pair of media types trying to deconstruct Dollar?

fugazifan · 11.16.2008, 04:07 PM

im not sure what this thread is about, but the minutemen's project mersh album is the best definition of ironic pop that i can think of

Glice · 11.16.2008, 04:14 PM

I'm not sure about the Tings Tings, I suspect they 'mean' whatever it is they're doing. It's always difficult to decide who's being ironic and who's not. I don't think music really needs this idea of authenticity, but my blood does boil whenever I hear an 'ironic' metal cover of a Britney song.

ruinedbyharps · 11.16.2008, 04:23 PM

Ultimately, isn't it just pop music for people who don't like pop music very much in the first place?

atsonicpark · 11.16.2008, 04:42 PM

You know that chick stinkbomb, the one they called stinkbomb cuz she smelled like a fuckin stinkbomb? well i tried to get in her pants last week. i was all walking up to her on the bus, everyone knew what i was doin, she was eating these onion chips and letting silent farts, and i asked her out and we went to one of those new age movies where there was lots of kissin' and shit and i put my hand down her shirt.. and she said she wanted to fuck me now.. so i bought some rubbers.. and we went to this hotel which had a hole in the wall so the guy could watch.. and we got a free room.. and he started like coughing and shit so i couldn't fuck her cuz stinkbomb fucking freaked dude. but mannnnnnn.. i almost fucked stinkbomb.. and last week in class, she was all farting and shit in english class and this dude yelled out 'why don't you give us a VOWEL movement, stinkbomb?' and it was so funny.. even the teacher was laughing..

NWRA · 11.16.2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice

I'm not sure about the Tings Tings, I suspect they 'mean' whatever it is they're doing. It's always difficult to decide who's being ironic and who's not. I don't think music really needs this idea of authenticity, but my blood does boil whenever I hear an 'ironic' metal cover of a Britney song.

Couldn't agree more. It's not as though I look at The Ting Tings and think 'ahhh a couple of Wagner-loving surrealists doing a parody of pop music, look at that deconstructionalism!, forcing the listener to consider their role as a mass-market cosumer-..'-blah, blah. They're a pop group who make sincere, quite effective (I like their singles), pop music without an 'ironic' hidden agenda.

I used to work in an office where Radio 1 was played all day. Every couple of days they had an ‘indie’ band in the studio who would do an ironic, downbeat version of an upbeat S Club 7 or Girls Aloud song, in a clever-clever tone. It was particularly annoying as it seemed to throw down these imaginary turf-marks between pop and 'indie' (and by indie, I mean: Starsailor, i.e., Britpop that missed the party), as if you couldn’t sincerely enjoy both – as though a white bloke, past the age of twenty (and who isn’t a TV gay), could only like pop music ‘ironically’.

I mean, one of my favourite songs is Genius Of Love by Tom Tom Club. It's a pop song but it has some credibility (Talking Heads connection). Does all pop music by relatively bright people have to be considered as ironic? It's AWESOME.

Glice · 11.16.2008, 05:38 PM

The thing with that Jo Whiley brigade doing covers was that it just showed how weak their own songs were next to the majesty of a good pop song. Don't get me wrong, 'proper pop' still turns out dirge by the bucket-load, but there are some amazing pop writers doing the rounds at the moment (i.e. Xenomania).

MellySingsDoom · 11.16.2008, 06:07 PM

I like the Ting Tings. A lot.

You may commence to laugh now.

PS The Girls Aloud interview in the latest ish of "Attitude" is ace. So there.

Toilet & Bowels · 11.16.2008, 06:32 PM

i don't think i've ever heard the ting tings.

MellySingsDoom · 11.16.2008, 06:35 PM

^^^Ah, allow me to elucidate you, good sir: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6UX0p7uAW2s

Toilet & Bowels · 11.16.2008, 06:41 PM

not to be rude but i think i might give them a miss, my gut is telling me to avoid.

i've decided to give your myspace a go instead.

MellySingsDoom · 11.16.2008, 06:45 PM

^^^No probs, T&B, and thank you re me MySpace

Toilet & Bowels · 11.16.2008, 06:52 PM

well, i trust my gut, i deliberatly avoided the manics holy bible album for about 14 years only to listen to half of it a few weeks ago as a result of a thread on this board, and i can safely say my gut offered sound guidance as those manics songs caused me psychic pain.

MellySingsDoom · 11.16.2008, 07:00 PM

T&B - I've always had a similar "avoid like the plague" instinct for pretty much all Britpop - Blur always sounded like fucking bad music hall shit to me, for example, and subsequent listenings of their later oeuvre just makes me think of, well, bad Pavement. This is multiplied time 100 for "stoner" rock - having suffered Nebula live for 10 minutes of my life, I'm inclined to give 98% of said genre a wide berth.

Toilet & Bowels · 11.16.2008, 07:17 PM

seriously, so much english pop/indie just sounds like fucking vera lynn

enjoyed the myspace stuff by the way, will be listening again for sure.

MellySingsDoom · 11.16.2008, 07:18 PM

^^^Thank you for checking out my stuff, T&B

Everyneurotic · 11.16.2008, 08:16 PM

irony is for suckers.

atsonicpark · 11.16.2008, 08:20 PM

ALIEN ANAL · 11.17.2008, 07:10 AM

we are way too indie for Irony hey guys
hey
irony is lame as hey
we like things that are not ironic

ruinedbyharps · 11.17.2008, 10:54 AM

I wonder what Age of Chance are up to right now.

11.16.2008, 03:55 PM	#1
ruinedbyharps little trouble girl Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 69	Stuff like the Ting Tings and, well the Ting Tings. Isn't there enough decent pop about without people feeling the need to get excited over a pair of media types trying to deconstruct Dollar?
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11.16.2008, 04:23 PM	#4
ruinedbyharps little trouble girl Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 69	Ultimately, isn't it just pop music for people who don't like pop music very much in the first place?
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11.16.2008, 04:42 PM	#5
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	You know that chick stinkbomb, the one they called stinkbomb cuz she smelled like a fuckin stinkbomb? well i tried to get in her pants last week. i was all walking up to her on the bus, everyone knew what i was doin, she was eating these onion chips and letting silent farts, and i asked her out and we went to one of those new age movies where there was lots of kissin' and shit and i put my hand down her shirt.. and she said she wanted to fuck me now.. so i bought some rubbers.. and we went to this hotel which had a hole in the wall so the guy could watch.. and we got a free room.. and he started like coughing and shit so i couldn't fuck her cuz stinkbomb fucking freaked dude. but mannnnnnn.. i almost fucked stinkbomb.. and last week in class, she was all farting and shit in english class and this dude yelled out 'why don't you give us a VOWEL movement, stinkbomb?' and it was so funny.. even the teacher was laughing.. __________________
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11.16.2008, 06:07 PM	#8
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	I like the Ting Tings. A lot. You may commence to laugh now. PS The Girls Aloud interview in the latest ish of "Attitude" is ace. So there. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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11.16.2008, 06:32 PM	#9
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	i don't think i've ever heard the ting tings.
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11.16.2008, 06:35 PM	#10
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	^^^Ah, allow me to elucidate you, good sir: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6UX0p7uAW2s __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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11.16.2008, 06:41 PM	#11
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	not to be rude but i think i might give them a miss, my gut is telling me to avoid. i've decided to give your myspace a go instead.
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	^^^No probs, T&B, and thank you re me MySpace __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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11.16.2008, 06:52 PM	#13
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	well, i trust my gut, i deliberatly avoided the manics holy bible album for about 14 years only to listen to half of it a few weeks ago as a result of a thread on this board, and i can safely say my gut offered sound guidance as those manics songs caused me psychic pain.
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11.16.2008, 07:00 PM	#14
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	T&B - I've always had a similar "avoid like the plague" instinct for pretty much all Britpop - Blur always sounded like fucking bad music hall shit to me, for example, and subsequent listenings of their later oeuvre just makes me think of, well, bad Pavement. This is multiplied time 100 for "stoner" rock - having suffered Nebula live for 10 minutes of my life, I'm inclined to give 98% of said genre a wide berth. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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11.16.2008, 07:17 PM	#15
Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	seriously, so much english pop/indie just sounds like fucking vera lynn enjoyed the myspace stuff by the way, will be listening again for sure.
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	^^^Thank you for checking out my stuff, T&B __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	irony is for suckers. __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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ALIEN ANAL invito al cielo Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 5,461	we are way too indie for Irony hey guys hey irony is lame as hey we like things that are not ironic __________________ www.instagram.com/alienanal
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11.17.2008, 10:54 AM	#20
ruinedbyharps little trouble girl Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 69	I wonder what Age of Chance are up to right now.
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