Am I the only person who doesnt think Sister is that good?

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 03:05 PM

Ive always had a problem with Sister, i dont know if its because the first time i listened to it i was on the tube with a malfunctioning CD player and cheap headphones, but i think alot of the songs on there - Schizophrenia, White Kross, Tuff Gnarl - are incredibly overrated. Catholic Block, Beauty Lies and Cotton Crown are fantastic tunes, but its really not remarkable as a collection of songs beyond that in ones humble opinion

It doesnt help that when i saw the band a couple of years ago the only song they played from that whole period (bar DDN as it was a DDN gig) was Schizophrenia.

Am I alone?

Chris Lawrence · 11.06.2009, 03:07 PM

Keeping It Simple · 11.06.2009, 03:10 PM

It sounds crazy, as I'm a fan of the band, but I've never listened to "Sister".

greedrex · 11.06.2009, 03:11 PM

^^ I'm writing to Chabbib so you get banned.

Keeping It Simple · 11.06.2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by greedrex

^^ I'm writing to Chabbib so you get banned.

I'll never get banned as Kim likes me SO much.

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by greedrex

^^ I'm writing to Chabbib so you get banned.

I knew this would happen.... do i get to choose which desert i am banished to?

Kannibal · 11.06.2009, 03:16 PM

mojave probably.

automatic bzooty · 11.06.2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple

It sounds crazy, as I'm a fan of the band, but I've never listened to "Sister".

go listen to it!

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SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 11.06.2009, 03:50 PM

I think Evol's better, but Sister has a lot of classic SY tunes on it.

The Earl Of Slander · 11.06.2009, 03:55 PM

Sister is still amazing, but it's always been probably my least favourite of the 80s albums, including The Whitey Album. At the very least, DDN, EVOL, and CIS all blow it away. I don't know what it is about it, as I like all the songs on it, but as a whole it always just seems to drift past me without ever really clicking. I really wish I could love it as much as some seem to, but it just never really happens for me. Schizophrenia and Kotton Krown are both stunning though.

badgercorn · 11.06.2009, 04:00 PM

I think the songs on Sister are all amazing but I don't like the production. I'd take big, Butch Vig, Dirty production over Sister's lo-fi-ness any day. THEN AGAIN I've only heard it on CD, so if i heard it on vinyl or a better mastering of the CD my opiniuon might change..

toxic johnny · 11.06.2009, 04:09 PM

Try to listen to it LOUD on vinyl NOW... I order you.

hevusa · 11.06.2009, 04:18 PM

My favorite sonic youth album is sister.

Satan · 11.06.2009, 04:20 PM

this thread is bullshit

noisereductions · 11.06.2009, 04:24 PM

"Schizo" alone is worth the cost of admission.

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 04:29 PM

Do you mean "not that good" compared to other SY output? or do you mean "not that good" in the general sense of suck?

I can respect the former, although I patently disagree, but if you mean the latter
FUICKING A MA N FUCK FUCK YOU GOT TO HXCHTeclenaOUT YRFUCKING EARS FGODDMAMN TURENTHAT SHIT UP TO 11 AND PBVLAST IT OR BETTER YET FIND A NF4IND WITRH A BAD ASS STERE SUYSTEM IN THEIR CAR AN DRIVE AROUNDALL NIGHT TLIOSTETI TG SUISTER IS A NIGHT RECORD ANIGHT MNUSCIOD DBFFVFVFUFICKFUFDCFUJKCUFJKFUFKUIFIfuiuuuuicxjkkkk kkkk

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Do you mean "not that good" compared to other SY output? or do you mean "not that good" in the general sense of suck?

I can respect the former, although I patently disagree, but if you mean the latter
FUICKING A MA N FUCK FUCK YOU GOT TO HXCHTeclenaOUT YRFUCKING EARS FGODDMAMN TURENTHAT SHIT UP TO 11 AND PBVLAST IT OR BETTER YET FIND A NF4IND WITRH A BAD ASS STERE SUYSTEM IN THEIR CAR AN DRIVE AROUNDALL NIGHT TLIOSTETI TG SUISTER IS A NIGHT RECORD ANIGHT MNUSCIOD DBFFVFVFUFICKFUFDCFUJKCUFJKFUFKUIFIfuiuuuuicxjkkkk kkkk

Of course its better than most rock music, it has some great songs on it, i just dont get its elevation as one of the best albums ever and one of SYs best albums ever, i tend to put it in the bottom 2 or 3 of their studio albums. Its never grown on me in the way that A Thousand Leaves or Washing Machine have.

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 04:44 PM

Ikara, it gets a lot of praise, and got a lot of praise because in 1986 so much massive suck was flooding the stereos. I think that sister is the one SY album that truly shaped what became "alternative rock" later on.
It was the first one where SY really explored the standard rock song format, fucking with it, building up songs without any "rational" conclusions, exploring that warm analog effect thurston loves so much.

Rob Instigator · 11.06.2009, 04:44 PM

by comparison washing machine has too many songs that are completely irrelevant to me.

the ikara cult · 11.06.2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Ikara, it gets a lot of praise, and got a lot of praise because in 1986 so much massive suck was flooding the stereos. I think that sister is the one SY album that truly shaped what became "alternative rock" later on.
It was the first one where SY really explored the standard rock song format, fucking with it, building up songs without any "rational" conclusions, exploring that warm analog effect thurston loves so much.

see, that sort of explaination means nothing to me. Bad Moon Rising and Evol - Daydream Nation and Goo. Inconceivably magnificent pieces of work. Sister just stands in the middle and doesnt stand up to those high water marks.

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the ikara cult invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London sink Posts: 4,576	Ive always had a problem with Sister, i dont know if its because the first time i listened to it i was on the tube with a malfunctioning CD player and cheap headphones, but i think alot of the songs on there - Schizophrenia, White Kross, Tuff Gnarl - are incredibly overrated. Catholic Block, Beauty Lies and Cotton Crown are fantastic tunes, but its really not remarkable as a collection of songs beyond that in ones humble opinion It doesnt help that when i saw the band a couple of years ago the only song they played from that whole period (bar DDN as it was a DDN gig) was Schizophrenia. Am I alone? __________________ "It is absolutely ridiculous, they are behaving like a cult" - The Vatican
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Keeping It Simple invito al cielo Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 3,721	It sounds crazy, as I'm a fan of the band, but I've never listened to "Sister".
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I think Evol's better, but Sister has a lot of classic SY tunes on it.
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The Earl Of Slander the end of the ugly Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,156	Sister is still amazing, but it's always been probably my least favourite of the 80s albums, including The Whitey Album. At the very least, DDN, EVOL, and CIS all blow it away. I don't know what it is about it, as I like all the songs on it, but as a whole it always just seems to drift past me without ever really clicking. I really wish I could love it as much as some seem to, but it just never really happens for me. Schizophrenia and Kotton Krown are both stunning though. __________________ The toothaches got worse, she dreamed of disembodied voices from whose malignance there was no appeal, the soft dusk of mirrors out of which something was about to walk, and empty rooms that waited for her. Your gynaecologist has no test for what she was pregnant with.
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badgercorn bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 229	I think the songs on Sister are all amazing but I don't like the production. I'd take big, Butch Vig, Dirty production over Sister's lo-fi-ness any day. THEN AGAIN I've only heard it on CD, so if i heard it on vinyl or a better mastering of the CD my opiniuon might change..
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toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	Try to listen to it LOUD on vinyl NOW... I order you. __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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hevusa expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: rain hell Posts: 1,535	My favorite sonic youth album is sister.
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Satan invito al cielo Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: noo yawk Posts: 6,331	this thread is bullshit
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noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	"Schizo" alone is worth the cost of admission. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	Do you mean "not that good" compared to other SY output? or do you mean "not that good" in the general sense of suck? I can respect the former, although I patently disagree, but if you mean the latter FUICKING A MA N FUCK FUCK YOU GOT TO HXCHTeclenaOUT YRFUCKING EARS FGODDMAMN TURENTHAT SHIT UP TO 11 AND PBVLAST IT OR BETTER YET FIND A NF4IND WITRH A BAD ASS STERE SUYSTEM IN THEIR CAR AN DRIVE AROUNDALL NIGHT TLIOSTETI TG SUISTER IS A NIGHT RECORD ANIGHT MNUSCIOD DBFFVFVFUFICKFUFDCFUJKCUFJKFUFKUIFIfuiuuuuicxjkkkk kkkk __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	Ikara, it gets a lot of praise, and got a lot of praise because in 1986 so much massive suck was flooding the stereos. I think that sister is the one SY album that truly shaped what became "alternative rock" later on. It was the first one where SY really explored the standard rock song format, fucking with it, building up songs without any "rational" conclusions, exploring that warm analog effect thurston loves so much. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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