whats with the disconnection notice video?

doctor dan · 03.28.2006, 01:09 PM

anyone else think its kinda stupid, and feels out of place on the dvd? not meaning to offend anyone who made it...

chabib · 03.28.2006, 01:12 PM

tom surgal made it. i think his treatment for it was a jab at the DOGME 95 films.

Inhuman · 03.28.2006, 01:25 PM

I thoought it was pretty funny, but it takes most of the MUSIC part out of a music video

Incesticide · 03.28.2006, 01:41 PM

For me it's the weirdest video of SY.

Inhuman · 03.28.2006, 01:49 PM

I think some of the most twisted are the My Friend Goo internet video's. And even the regular one is really different for a music video

whorefrost · 03.28.2006, 02:33 PM

You may have heard of Lars Von Trier... he made Dogville... he is at the more visible end of the Dogme spectrum... also Harmony Korine (who directed Sunday) made Julien Donkey Boy under the guidance of the Dogme manifesto... in fact, Julien Donkey Boy breaches a lot of the Dogme "rules." I read an interview w/ Von Trier where he said something to the effect that the rules were not completely inflexible and were written to some extent with tongue in cheek...

whorefrost · 03.28.2006, 02:41 PM

it is not completely ironic! sorry, i gave the wrong impression in my post... not ironic... but not overly serious... but quite serious... geez, i suck...

finding nobody · 03.28.2006, 02:44 PM

i love the video."so why did you join a band?"

"so i could Kick out the the jams motherfucker!"
someone up there made a good point by saying that most of the music is taken out of the video. but i dont care. its a funny video

FruitLoop · 03.28.2006, 03:36 PM

Dude I haven't seen the video, but quite a few Dogma 95 films.... and I'm not a filmmaking student as well.... but the point of Dogma is/was to make filmmaking accessible to anyone, like in the good old days. that's the main pont, so it invoves as much pov as well as no doubles. soundtrack or whatever like that. I think no external lighting as well. Anyway just get stoned and watch "The Idiots" by Lars von Trier. you'll get what it's all about!!!!

LifeDistortion · 03.28.2006, 08:15 PM

I've seen "Julian Donkey-Boy" and "Gummo". I've heard of Dogma 95, but in my ignorance I always thought Dogma 95 was just the name of a production company. Not an art movement.

samuel · 03.28.2006, 08:22 PM

Yeah,
I think that video is kind of stupid.
I'm not a huge fan of song either.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 03.28.2006, 08:38 PM

I find the disconnection notice video's acting kind of fake.

silverfreepress (sdasher) · 03.28.2006, 10:00 PM

I like the natuaral light aspect of Dogma. Its kinda fun to have a structure but having it be a selling point always makes me laugh. But the Disco video is nice, the music is background which is usually not what yr going for in a music video. AH ART!

krastian · 03.29.2006, 01:55 AM

Not the greatest of videos but damn I love that song.

static-harmony · 03.29.2006, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian

Not the greatest of videos but damn I love that song.

I dig that song very much is one of the few I like from that cd.

krastian · 03.29.2006, 02:31 AM

I think it's Thurston's vocals/lyrics that get me.

fishmonkey · 03.29.2006, 03:44 AM

ahh i think its a cool video, a bit mad really, maybe i'm just been biased but i dont like the way the song is low in the backround.

EvdWee · 03.29.2006, 04:04 AM

i haven't seen the video but i like the dogma films...

favourite: festen (the celebration)

the dogme rules:

Filming must be done on location. Props and sets must not be brought in (if a particular prop is necessary for the story, a location must be chosen where this prop is to be found).
The sound must never be produced apart from the images or vice versa. (Music must not be used unless it occurs where the scene is being filmed).
The camera must be hand-held. Any movement or immobility attainable in the hand is permitted. (The film must not take place where the camera is standing; filming must take place where the action takes place.)
The film must be in colour. Special lighting is not acceptable. (If there is too little light for exposure the scene must be cut or a single lamp be attached to the camera).
Optical work and filters are forbidden.
The film must not contain superficial action. (Murders, weapons, etc. must not occur.)
Temporal and geographical alienation are forbidden. (That is to say that the film takes place here and now.)
Genre movies are not acceptable.
The final picture must be transferred to the Academy 35mm film, with an aspect ratio of 4:3, that is, not widescreen. (Originally, the requirement was that the film had to be filmed on Academy 35mm film, but the rule was relaxed to allow low-budget productions.)
The director must not be credited.

TheyLiveByNight · 03.30.2006, 10:56 AM

Nothing wrong with this video. It's funny and unusual, and most importantly completely watchable, given that it has a fairly coherent narrative that's easy to follow (unlike most music videos). Interesting to hear that its Dogme-inspired. Festen is one of my favourite films.

Everyneurotic · 03.30.2006, 11:01 AM

i thought it was weird to see a video about a band with lots of inner strife when sy are obviously not at all like that (because, if they were anything like that, they would have splitted up a long time ago).

but yeah, it sucks that the video for disconnection notice has very little of the song in it. not because it isn't "mtv" or anything, simply because the song is awesome!!

and since last saturday, tom surgal is a drum hero of mine!!!

03.28.2006, 01:09 PM	#1
doctor dan bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: bath spa, uk/ nottingham, uk Posts: 157	anyone else think its kinda stupid, and feels out of place on the dvd? not meaning to offend anyone who made it... __________________ IT FIT WHEN I WAS A KID
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03.28.2006, 01:12 PM	#2
chabib Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 521	tom surgal made it. i think his treatment for it was a jab at the DOGME 95 films. __________________ http://www.visitordesign.com \| shelflife \| twitter
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03.28.2006, 01:25 PM	#3
Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	I thoought it was pretty funny, but it takes most of the MUSIC part out of a music video
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03.28.2006, 01:41 PM	#4
Incesticide the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 501	For me it's the weirdest video of SY. __________________ Mountebank my French 'gaze band
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03.28.2006, 01:49 PM	#5
Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	I think some of the most twisted are the My Friend Goo internet video's. And even the regular one is really different for a music video
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03.28.2006, 02:33 PM	#6
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,572	You may have heard of Lars Von Trier... he made Dogville... he is at the more visible end of the Dogme spectrum... also Harmony Korine (who directed Sunday) made Julien Donkey Boy under the guidance of the Dogme manifesto... in fact, Julien Donkey Boy breaches a lot of the Dogme "rules." I read an interview w/ Von Trier where he said something to the effect that the rules were not completely inflexible and were written to some extent with tongue in cheek...
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03.28.2006, 02:41 PM	#7
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,572	it is not completely ironic! sorry, i gave the wrong impression in my post... not ironic... but not overly serious... but quite serious... geez, i suck...
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03.28.2006, 02:44 PM	#8
finding nobody invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 7,275	i love the video."so why did you join a band?" "so i could Kick out the the jams motherfucker!" someone up there made a good point by saying that most of the music is taken out of the video. but i dont care. its a funny video
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03.28.2006, 03:36 PM	#9
FruitLoop children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 323	Dude I haven't seen the video, but quite a few Dogma 95 films.... and I'm not a filmmaking student as well.... but the point of Dogma is/was to make filmmaking accessible to anyone, like in the good old days. that's the main pont, so it invoves as much pov as well as no doubles. soundtrack or whatever like that. I think no external lighting as well. Anyway just get stoned and watch "The Idiots" by Lars von Trier. you'll get what it's all about!!!!
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03.28.2006, 08:15 PM	#10
LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	I've seen "Julian Donkey-Boy" and "Gummo". I've heard of Dogma 95, but in my ignorance I always thought Dogma 95 was just the name of a production company. Not an art movement.
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03.28.2006, 08:22 PM	#11
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,175	Yeah, I think that video is kind of stupid. I'm not a huge fan of song either. __________________ samueldahle.bandcamp.com
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03.28.2006, 08:38 PM	#12
SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I find the disconnection notice video's acting kind of fake.
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03.28.2006, 10:00 PM	#13
silverfreepress (sdasher) the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 588	I like the natuaral light aspect of Dogma. Its kinda fun to have a structure but having it be a selling point always makes me laugh. But the Disco video is nice, the music is background which is usually not what yr going for in a music video. AH ART!
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03.29.2006, 01:55 AM	#14
krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	Not the greatest of videos but damn I love that song. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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03.29.2006, 02:31 AM	#16
krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	I think it's Thurston's vocals/lyrics that get me. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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03.29.2006, 03:44 AM	#17
fishmonkey invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 2,670	ahh i think its a cool video, a bit mad really, maybe i'm just been biased but i dont like the way the song is low in the backround. __________________ "Pescescimmia ha grandi bulbi oculari blu, ognuno attaccato su un lato della sua testa, in modo tale da risucire a guardare indietro senza girare la sua testa pesciosa"
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03.29.2006, 04:04 AM	#18
EvdWee 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 754	i haven't seen the video but i like the dogma films... favourite: festen (the celebration) the dogme rules: Filming must be done on location. Props and sets must not be brought in (if a particular prop is necessary for the story, a location must be chosen where this prop is to be found). The sound must never be produced apart from the images or vice versa. (Music must not be used unless it occurs where the scene is being filmed). The camera must be hand-held. Any movement or immobility attainable in the hand is permitted. (The film must not take place where the camera is standing; filming must take place where the action takes place.) The film must be in colour. Special lighting is not acceptable. (If there is too little light for exposure the scene must be cut or a single lamp be attached to the camera). Optical work and filters are forbidden. The film must not contain superficial action. (Murders, weapons, etc. must not occur.) Temporal and geographical alienation are forbidden. (That is to say that the film takes place here and now.) Genre movies are not acceptable. The final picture must be transferred to the Academy 35mm film, with an aspect ratio of 4:3, that is, not widescreen. (Originally, the requirement was that the film had to be filmed on Academy 35mm film, but the rule was relaxed to allow low-budget productions.) The director must not be credited.
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03.30.2006, 10:56 AM	#19
TheyLiveByNight little trouble girl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Glasgow Posts: 32	Nothing wrong with this video. It's funny and unusual, and most importantly completely watchable, given that it has a fairly coherent narrative that's easy to follow (unlike most music videos). Interesting to hear that its Dogme-inspired. Festen is one of my favourite films.
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03.30.2006, 11:01 AM	#20
Everyneurotic invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mexico Posts: 15,713	i thought it was weird to see a video about a band with lots of inner strife when sy are obviously not at all like that (because, if they were anything like that, they would have splitted up a long time ago). but yeah, it sucks that the video for disconnection notice has very little of the song in it. not because it isn't "mtv" or anything, simply because the song is awesome!! and since last saturday, tom surgal is a drum hero of mine!!! __________________ Richard Clayderman found alive and still bland! Repo Man has all night! Photographic evidence of Monosodic's existance! New Kiddieriot shit after all! Never too late to share fave rex from the year before! David Keenan is a douchebag! Ron Asheton missed!
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