throat singing

johnnywinternoshow · 05.11.2006, 09:21 AM

I'm listening to Albert Kuvezin's album of covers of western bands like zep, iron butterfly and kraftwerk and it's really fucking good if not a little scary when he goes really deep. anyone know of any more good throat singers?

Rob Instigator · 05.11.2006, 09:26 AM

Go check out the movie GHENGIS BLUES
http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/revi...his/index.html

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 05.11.2006, 09:29 AM

What do you mean by throat singers? Like I might have throat cancer sing ala Tom Waits? Or like using your throat like a bullfrog?

Glice · 05.11.2006, 09:36 AM

Excellent. I've only been into it for a while, there's loads of it out there. Yat-kha are good (Albert Khuvezin's band) but you really should be listening to Huun Huur Tu first, those boys are excellent. 60 horses in my herd is one of the most necessary records ever released. Also, check out Sainkho Namchyleck (I'll check the spelling in a bit), she's got something like an 8-octave range. She's one of the most impressive singers from anywhere, she can do things with her voice that'd make Diamanda Galas wince.
http://www.realityfilm.co.uk/soavideo_isdn.rpm

nicfit · 05.11.2006, 09:37 AM

old time relijun singer?not sure he uses the same technique...

Glice · 05.11.2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

What do you mean by throat singers? Like I might have throat cancer sing ala Tom Waits? Or like using your throat like a bullfrog?

It's a vocal technique whereby the overtones are emphasised - which means that you can get two (or more) notes at once. It's actually pretty easy to do, but takes quite a bit of practice to get it sounding good. There are lots of different techniques to produce overtones, I can't remember which one I do best, it might by Khoomei. Google it, it's a wonderful thing. Trust.

_slavo_ · 05.11.2006, 09:40 AM

Huun-Huur-Tu

they're from Tuva, a foursome of excellent throat singers.
Seen them live, it was great.

nicfit · 05.11.2006, 09:41 AM

oh,so search for demetrio stratos . he was amazing.

Glice · 05.11.2006, 09:46 AM

I should say that Throat singing isn't exclusive to Tuva, but I don't know a great deal about the other countries that do it, I understand somewhere in Scandinavia does overtone singing as well, but it seems it's very popular in the outreaches of former Soviet block countries

nicfit · 05.11.2006, 09:52 AM

i'm not completely sure that this is what you're looking for,but here is the cover of demetrio stratos "cantare la voce" ("singing the voice")

.....looks like his throat is singing......

Rob Instigator · 05.11.2006, 10:42 AM

Ghengis Blues is about a blind bluesman, nearly down and out, who heard throat singing on the shortwave he always played around with and he taught himself to make these vocal sounds where you have two or three notes at the same time, and he travels to Tuva (where my idol richard p feynman went) to seek out these throat singers and he enters a contest they hold every year. it is a sad and great movie.

PAULYBEE2656 · 05.11.2006, 12:11 PM

ive heard that covers album and its good. ive also heard yat kha other albums and the singing is wonderful but its set to a 4 4 techno handbag beat and melody. kinda sucks. wonderful usage of the human voicebox tho!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 05.11.2006, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice

It's a vocal technique whereby the overtones are emphasised - which means that you can get two (or more) notes at once. It's actually pretty easy to do, but takes quite a bit of practice to get it sounding good. There are lots of different techniques to produce overtones, I can't remember which one I do best, it might by Khoomei. Google it, it's a wonderful thing. Trust.

Cool. Can anyone do it?

Glice · 05.11.2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

Cool. Can anyone do it?

Yeah. Not everyone can do it well, but the simple effects are pretty easy. Try singing a high note and moving your tongue back so it nearly covers your throat, then fiddle about. There're probably some instruction-y things online somewhere, but it's not that difficult to produce with a little practice.

Savage Clone · 05.11.2006, 12:47 PM

It's the sound between "OOO" and "EEE" that does it.
I have seen Huun-Huur-Tu before, and it was pretty cool.
Paul Metzger has been incorporating elements of this in some recent performances as well, and pulling it off.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 05.11.2006, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

It's the sound between "OOO" and "EEE" that does it.
I have seen Huun-Huur-Tu before, and it was pretty cool.
Paul Metzger has been incorporating elements of this in some recent performances as well, and pulling it off.

Oh, wow, I just did it. Easy to learn hard to master I bet!

Пятхъдесят Шест · 05.11.2006, 02:35 PM

Perhaps later I'll post some Mongolian throat singing that is quite good.

johnnywinternoshow · 05.11.2006, 02:44 PM

thanks for all these recommendations, checking out some huun huur tu now, they just played in belfast but i missed it by about 2 weeks cus i'm back at uni now

Gulasch Noir · 05.20.2011, 11:01 AM

Good topic. Have to check out throat singing and more music from this fascinating region

!@#$%! · 05.20.2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice

I should say that Throat singing isn't exclusive to Tuva, but I don't know a great deal about the other countries that do it, I understand somewhere in Scandinavia does overtone singing as well, but it seems it's very popular in the outreaches of former Soviet block countries

the inuit do it too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEk5odW6KGY

or

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johnnywinternoshow the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,006	I'm listening to Albert Kuvezin's album of covers of western bands like zep, iron butterfly and kraftwerk and it's really fucking good if not a little scary when he goes really deep. anyone know of any more good throat singers?
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nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	i'm not completely sure that this is what you're looking for,but here is the cover of demetrio stratos "cantare la voce" ("singing the voice") .....looks like his throat is singing...... __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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05.11.2006, 10:42 AM	#11
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	Ghengis Blues is about a blind bluesman, nearly down and out, who heard throat singing on the shortwave he always played around with and he taught himself to make these vocal sounds where you have two or three notes at the same time, and he travels to Tuva (where my idol richard p feynman went) to seek out these throat singers and he enters a contest they hold every year. it is a sad and great movie. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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PAULYBEE2656 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: wexford, rep of ireland Posts: 6,930	ive heard that covers album and its good. ive also heard yat kha other albums and the singing is wonderful but its set to a 4 4 techno handbag beat and melody. kinda sucks. wonderful usage of the human voicebox tho! __________________ myspace facebook *twitter*
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	It's the sound between "OOO" and "EEE" that does it. I have seen Huun-Huur-Tu before, and it was pretty cool. Paul Metzger has been incorporating elements of this in some recent performances as well, and pulling it off.
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Пятхъдесят Шест invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Omaha, Nebraska, USA Posts: 3,063	Perhaps later I'll post some Mongolian throat singing that is quite good.
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johnnywinternoshow the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 1,006	thanks for all these recommendations, checking out some huun huur tu now, they just played in belfast but i missed it by about 2 weeks cus i'm back at uni now
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Gulasch Noir the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vienna Posts: 862	Good topic. Have to check out throat singing and more music from this fascinating region
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