[knox]

Originally Posted by Pookie

No, that's what I've been saying. You've been saying atheism is a matter of faith.

–noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability. 2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact. 3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims. 4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by knox

–noun 1. confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability. 2. belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact. 3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims. 4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.

Wha...?

[knox]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Im not being shitty, but what do people do when they take it religiously?

it was a joke.

[Pookie]

And what does "militant" or "hardcore*" atheism involve?





(*Cue picture of atheist porn)

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by knox

it was a joke.

Kinda makes my efforts to engage in conversation with you kinda pointless dont it

[knox]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Wha...?

I don't have to explain again do I? Number 2. Belief anything that is not based on proof.

All our beliefs or disbeliefs cannot be proven, they are mere speculations.
Until you can prove that God does not exist, it will require faith in his non-existence to be an atheist.

this is just a wanking philosophical discussion anyway about the concepts of faith and belief, so it's getting annoying.

what you really need to know is that i have nothing against atheists or whatever.

and i even defend their right to be militant.

i'd like to know tho, in your opinion, can you be an atheist and consider the possibility of being wrong?

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Pookie

And what does "militant" or "hardcore*" atheism involve?





(*Cue picture of atheist porn)

It involves being an overconfident twat.

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by knox

All our beliefs or disbeliefs cannot be proven, they are mere speculations.
Until you can prove that God does not exist, it will require faith in his non-existence to be an atheist.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by knox

this is just a wanking philosophical discussion anyway about the concepts of faith and belief, so it's getting annoying.

HEY! I know you suck at making your point but no need to debase the field, shorty. Direct these fools to my post and I shall refute their faithful faithlessness.

[knox]

Originally Posted by pbradley

HEY! I know you suck at making your point but no need to debase the field, shorty. Direct these fools to my post and I shall refute their faithful faithlessness.

I just think you do it so much better than me. Concise and all.
But they have been ignoring your posts, for some reason they are more interested in mine.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by terriblecanyons

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by knox

Until you can prove that God does not exist, it will require faith in his non-existence to be an atheist.

Absolutely wrong. Lack of faith.

Originally Posted by knox

i'd like to know tho, in your opinion, can you be an atheist and consider the possibility of being wrong?

Yes because atheism is a lack of belief based on lack of evidence. If the evidence were there then belief (faith) wouldn't be necessary because you would KNOW.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by the ikara cult

Kinda makes my efforts to engage in conversation with you kinda pointless dont it

ikara's inner mind: How do I cop out as soon as possible...

[knox]

What is interesting to me is to observe how in any discussion regarding religion or non-religion, people tend to take everything so personally and have a hard time disagreeing.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by knox

I just think you do it so much better than me. Concise and all.
But they have been ignoring your posts, for some reason they are more interested in mine.

Your posts are more interesting. His are the same as yours dressed up in pseudo-philosophical wankery.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Absolutely wrong. Lack of faith.
Yes because atheism is a lack of belief based on lack of evidence. If the evidence were there then belief (faith) wouldn't be necessary because you would KNOW.

I don't know if you know this, because I've always held you in high regard, that you are defending the most base atheism.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by knox

What is interesting to me is to observe how in any discussion regarding religion or non-religion, people tend to take everything so personally and have a hard time disagreeing.

I love discussing religion. I find your basic misunderstanding of the definition of atheism very frustrating though. And I do get a tad riled when anybody mentions militant atheism without telling me what it means.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Your posts are more interesting. His are the same as yours dressed up in pseudo-philosophical wankery.

OH SHIT! And I thought you were reasonable. In with Keep It Simple you go.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Pookie

I love discussing religion. I find your basic misunderstanding of the definition of atheism very frustrating though. And I do get a tad riled when anybody mentions militant atheism without telling me what it means.

It means combating theism at every turn. Don't be so willfully dull.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by pbradley

I don't know if you know this, because I've always held you in high regard, that you are defending the most base atheism.

I am very reasonable, but you keep saying things which don't mean anything. Please define "base atheism" for me.