[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by satan

you know, i think i'm just going to start a cult. anyone who wants to join is welcome as long as you're not sick or a jew. or a sick jew. god forbid. those are the worst.

I've already been scouting sites for a compound in Texas.

my cult only has a few rules:

• aliens are here to have sex with us. we
must all do our part to assist them.

• drugs are mandatory.

• healthcare is against our religion.

• we like Knox.

so, seeing as healthcare is against our religion, how long before the ATF breaks in, steals our alien-hybrid children and makes a mockery of us in CNN?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

NOTHING good will come from the government running health care. What needs to be done is to allow insurance companies to fight against each other by allowing them to offer plans outside their current states of operation.

while there could be some competitive princing and offers, there is no incentive whatsoever for them to offer insurance to people who are already sick. that has to be mandated and i'm glad it will be done.

the insurance company is just a fucking middleman. they don't provide healthcare. they just take your money, skim off the top, and then make it a bitch to pay doctors. doctors need to have extra people on the staff just to deal with the fucking insurance claims, or they would never get paid. it's a fucking ugly racket and i'd be happy to be rid of it.

i much rather trust the government to provide a service (like the fire department and the cops and the roads) and then if you want extra perks you can buy your own (like people have private security, helicopters, etc). but again, "we don't trust the government", cuz of some obscure fucking superstition, but we trust the big fucking corporations, right?

i'm for the free market for most things but some things need to be collective or they won't work-- roads is one, army is another, and health care too. in the meantime, i'll take whatever i can get, even if i disagree with having to give my money to some corporate vulture.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pbradley

I've skimmed most of the last ten pages. Not much worth reading.

this post didn't add anything either.

[gmku]

Ha ha. Have any of them?

[Satan]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I've already been scouting sites for a compound in Texas.

my cult only has a few rules:

• aliens are here to have sex with us. we
must all do our part to assist them.

• drugs are mandatory.

• healthcare is against our religion.

• we like Knox.

so, seeing as healthcare is against our religion, how long before the ATF breaks in, steals our alien-hybrid children and makes a mockery of us in CNN?

let's roll.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

this post didn't add anything either.

best post.

Originally Posted by gmku

Ha ha. Have any of them?

no, that was the point.

[gmku]

Somebody should delete the entire thread.

[Satan]

are you kidding me? this is a goldmine.



lol at you guys talking real shit.


what a waste of time.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

this post didn't add anything either.

No doubt. Would you mind if I said that some of your posts were interesting?

Here's a picture of a politician:

 

[gmku]

Originally Posted by Satan

are you kidding me? this is a goldmine.



.

More like a compost pile.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I understand what you are saying, but at the same time I realize that individuals who are in vehicle accidents are still offered insurance afterwards. YES - the government should mandate it, but the government shouldn't have any other involvement.

After hurricanes Rita & Ike, insurance companies in Texas no longer wanted to offer coverage along the Texas cost. The State of Texas said if you are going to write any business in the State, you MUST provide coverage along the cost.

exactly, that's a mandate-- 'you must provide". hell yeah.

about vehicle insurance-- people who have too many accidents are offered policies that are unaffordable. so you can quit driving and take the bus or take cabs or have someone give you a ride-- some break the law and drive without insurance.

you don't have that option with your life. well, you could say "hey, my fucking cancer has raised my premiums to $20K a month, so i think i'll eat a bullet now".

sure a lot of health care is self-inflicted and people could use some incentives to exercise, eat right, lose weight, etc. but a lot of it is random and fucking tragic and this IS a moral issue, not just a business one. you can't throw people to the dogs just because they are not in perfect condition.

about the government not getting more involved, i disagree-- i fear big business more than i fear the government. the government may be flawed, but health insurance companies are fucking vultures with no interest whatsoever in the public good. they just want money, and it's profitable for them to take money and deny you coverage or find some other way to fuck you or your doctor.

[Satan]

bytor and !@#$%! killed it.



thanks a lot guys.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pbradley

No doubt. Would you mind if I said that some of your posts were interesting?

that wouldn't change your first post but let's not dwell on it

Originally Posted by pbradley

Here's a picture of a politician:

 

ha ha ha, that's a fast improvement

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Satan

bytor and !@#$%! killed it.



thanks a lot guys.

youre welcome

walk away safe while everyone is distracted!

[gmku]

I now see Satan in a completely different light. Sigh... .

[pbradley]

Too bad Satan isn't living the rich life like she used to. At least, then, her noncommittal self-interest would make sense.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by gmku

I now see Satan in a completely different light. Sigh... .

let's quote the funny girl

Originally Posted by terriblecanyons

 

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i think this thread is finally dead now.

 

[Satan]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Too bad Satan isn't living the rich life like she used to. At least, then, her noncommittal self-interest would make sense.

soon.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Something like 85% of legal citizens have medical insurance......it's the 15% that doesn't. One thing you don't hear as much about......how many of the 85% who have medical insurance can afford to use it? I believe that number to be about 50%.

My medical insurance as a $1500 deductible (family). Many insurance plans have deductibles that are much higher and most families can't afford it (but they have it). My place of employment provides us with a nurse practitioner at no cost. My family is so fortunate to have this blessing.

NOTHING good will come from the government running health care. What needs to be done is to allow insurance companies to fight against each other by allowing them to offer plans outside their current states of operation. If this can be done, I'm sure some will start offering "no pre-existing conditions" and affordable rates. The biggest problem will be your doctor / local doctors taking part in a plan from another state. It's apples & oranges, but it's not much different that Southwestern Bell / AT&T from back in the day.

These things should be tried first before the government screws everything up.

you know what is the most successful insurance program out there? It pays off doctors more than any other, it covers more people than any other, it covers more procedures than any other?

MEDICARE and MEDICAID. It is what is used by all our senators and representatives and they LOVE IT. Most private health insurance pays off to doctors about 50% of what they should. medicare and medicaid pay off around 80%. It covers things such as prosthesis for dsifigured peoplr, alternative therapies, etc.

FUCK private health insurance. it is a crock of SHIT

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

FUCK private health insurance. it is a crock of SHIT

 

[Rob Instigator]

to add one dependent on my work insurance (atena) it costs me $745 a month. a FUCKING MONTH!
it is insane. $745 x 12 = $8940
that is more than the yearly amount you would pay for standard doctors visits, and preventive care! fuck!