[!@#$%!]

magic in the moonlight sucks, but you liked it.

to rome with love sucks, but you liked it.

bullets over broadway, get ready for it to suck! but i liked it

deconstructing harry, get ready for it to suck! but i liked it

sweet and lowdown, get ready for it to suck! but i liked it

everyone says i love you is a musical. i've never dared. probably sucks hard. couldn't tell you. i just kept away. you tell me after.

wild man blues is a documentary about him so it doesn't count.

[evollove]

You never saw Everyone Says I Love You? It has it's charming moments. A lot of people seem to like it.

Wait. I mean, it sucks! Get ready for the worst thing you've ever seen.

[!@#$%!]

i really hate musicals. i think there are only 2 i've liked: candide (the play) and the buffy musical episode. both were hilarious.

i don't know if i'll go for "charming." hmmm.... i don't wanna get sad watching.

sad !#$%! is sad thinking about it

[evollove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtuwpjEsZo

Fair enough. But please just watch this four-minute plea for you to enjoy yourself.

[tw2113]

If I've seen any Woody Allen movie, I wasn't aware it was one. Otherwise, I haven't seen any.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

 

The Neon Demon

Not sure what to say about this. Fucked up in the extreme. Borderline indescribable. Total head fuck. A film I can see myself watching over and over again without even trying to get to the bottom of it. Wow.

 

Ths explains the symbolism and purposes of the film above https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesan...-occult-elite/

[Rob Instigator]

Heat sucked and sucks. and The Departed sucked and sucks. fucking boring fucking shit.

[Rob Instigator]

I avoid woody allen films like the plague. fucking boring shit. The jokes do not make me laugh and the "drama" is straight bullshit. I have tried every 5 years or so since I was 17 to get into them, and people give me recommendations,a nd then I watch them and all I can think is "I don't give a fuck about you, New York, or any of your neurosis."

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by evollove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtuwpjEsZo

Fair enough. But please just watch this four-minute plea for you to enjoy yourself.

i watched it with my wife and she said "we have to get that" so i guess i will ha ha ha.

i liked the funeral parlor dialogue more than the dance number, but yeah it was funny overall

alvy singer gets told once more to stop worrying about the expanding universe and enjoy life ha ha ha

[ilduclo]

I agree on Allen. Boring and trite. And very dated after just a few years.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

Heat sucked and sucks. and The Departed sucked and sucks. fucking boring fucking shit.

Heat probably sucked. The Departed did not suck. I'm of a mind to say it ruled so we can have a parallel conversation here ( ) but I don't know that I care enough about it to really get into it with you.

It was a solid Scorsese film. It was a "return to form" from the overlong Casino and Gangs of New York. It was nice and compact and gritty and its plot (though unoriginal, as it's based on a Japanese film) made for great, tense entertainment. It was stylish and well-acted (DiCaprio was at his best in that one, I think... and Sheen? Baldwin? Nicholson? Forgetaboutit!). It was everything GoodFellas fans wanted from a Scorsese film in 2005 or whatever.

I actually think it's good in a lot of the same ways that The Dark Knight is good. It's a solid, never-boring crime drama that delivers. Is it the best Scorsese movie? Fuck no. It's probably not even in the top five. But it doesn't "suck." To write it off so brusquely is almost a little offensive. You could at least say why you didn't like it.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I avoid woody allen films like the plague. fucking boring shit. The jokes do not make me laugh and the "drama" is straight bullshit. I have tried every 5 years or so since I was 17 to get into them, and people give me recommendations,a nd then I watch them and all I can think is "I don't give a fuck about you, New York, or any of your neurosis."

I'm not head over heals for Woody myself. I think a lot of his movies are, like, ½ crap. But Annie Hall, Manhatten, Hannah & Her Sisters, and Crimes and Misdemeanors, at the bare minimum, are pop masterpieces. If you can't appreciate them, that sucks.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Severian

I'm not head over heals for Woody myself. I think a lot of his movies are, like, ½ crap. But Annie Hall, Manhatten, Hannah & Her Sisters, and Crimes and Misdemeanors, at the bare minimum, are pop masterpieces. If you can't appreciate them, that sucks.

he feints and... oh, damn!

 

[Rob Instigator]

 

10/10 classic.
chillin with the Netflix on day off yesterday.

 

This was maybe 30% like the comic book Planet Hulk, and suffers because of it.
4/10

[Rob Instigator]

I have seen all those woody allen films. I have read 3 of his books. I have listened to several hours of his "stand-up" from back in da day. fucking needless. I would have been better served doing nothing and enjoying it. Maybe it is because I am Puerto Rican but I find every single one of his movies to be the problems of well-off white folks, which seem deep but are exceedingly inconsequential compared to the problems of "regular" people.

At least Seinfeld (the show) understood that the four main characters were hateful, horrible, USELESS people, the type that seem to thrive in NYC, a place where caring for one's neighbor is a health hazard, and which helps create people like Donald Trump.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Severian

Heat probably sucked.

Do you honestly believe that?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I have seen all those woody allen films. I have read 3 of his books. I have listened to several hours of his "stand-up" from back in da day. fucking needless. I would have been better served doing nothing and enjoying it. Maybe it is because I am Puerto Rican but I find every single one of his movies to be the problems of well-off white folks, which seem deep but are exceedingly inconsequential compared to the problems of "regular" people.

At least Seinfeld (the show) understood that the four main characters were hateful, horrible, USELESS people, the type that seem to thrive in NYC, a place where caring for one's neighbor is a health hazard, and which helps create people like Donald Trump.

so it's salaam bombay or nothing?

i don't disagree it's hard to sympathize with "the rich white" on many occasions but allen didn't grow up rich or white-- jews weren't "white" back then. hence the frequent joke about "wasp women" fetishes (e.g. deconstructing harry, annie hall)

so i see him more at laughing at the problems of rich white people but sure, some of those problems can be universal, and one can empathize even with them.

i mean i read the illiad and it's a bunch of rich white greeks with slaves killing one another-- still makes great literature though and you feel sorry for hector's old dad begging for his son's corpse.

now woody allen isn't homer (or homer simpson) but i've watched a lot of his stuff in latin america to packed houses and great hilarity was enjoyed by all. not radio days though. i don't think anyone got that one. or maybe it was just me and i'm projecting.

as for the problems of the poor, check out the purple rose of cairo-- beautiful movie with a lot of heart. also, mentioned above, sweet and lowdown. also, differently, take the money and run. also in a way that rejects the lives of rich white folk and borrows from latin american literature a bit, alice. also, about not being white (or rich), zelig. also, about not fitting in with the rich, small time crooks. speaking of radio days, i think that was set in a tenement-- but i couldn't get what that movie was about and probably fell asleep so don't quote me on that.

i'm not saying you have to like his work, but the harsher a criticism the more accurate it has to be, right? otherwise it's just yells.

anyway not all new york jews are created equal and seinfeld/larry david make completely different characters and get laughs from very different places.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

sweet and lowdown

I watched that last night and absolutely loved it! Definitely the best I've seen from that era and one that stands up against his 'golden era' - although very different (I don't know if I would've even realised it was a Woody Allen film just from watching it.) Sean Penn in pure fantastic-mode!

[evollove]

Did you notice similarities with La Strada?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I watched that last night and absolutely loved it! Definitely the best I've seen from that era and one that stands up against his 'golden era' - although very different (I don't know if I would've even realised it was a Woody Allen film just from watching it.) Sean Penn in pure fantastic-mode!

hurrah

and samantha morton eh